Thoughts on the "Lost" Finale
My thoughts after seeing the epic 2½ hour finale of "Lost."
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I watched Lost pretty much in the same fashion you did. I was more concerned about the characters and their story rather than which mystery was going to be answered.
I don't care that there are still mysteries left unanswered, and really there aren't that many left unanswered that can't be given an answer by using the information given us.
The finale tonight exceeded my expectations. I was dreading a cliche happy ending, and luckily, although still a bit cliche, it was much more of a bittersweet ending - and I can't possibly think of a better way for it to have ended. It's nice how much of it is left open to interpretation without it being frustratingly so.
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I've never actually seen an episode of "Lost", it's one of those shows where if I haven't seen the first season, I usually say "Screw it" and just don't even watch ever. I do agree about "24" that is does need to end, but I am very excited to see how it ends tomorrow night, I hope it's a damn good one. I also agree about "FlashForward", it was actually one of my favorite shows of the new season even though it seemed like no one else liked it lol. You should check out "V" it's a damn decent update of the 80's show.
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I never watched the show either. I hardly watch television enough to pay attention to prime time shows. I get too busy with school work and stuff in life.
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I watched the entire finale and I thought it was pretty epic like you said. It was a bit weird for me with the whole Jacob and guardian of the island bit, but it was a crazy awesome series.
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Yeaaaah never got into Lost. Seen some episodes here and there sporadically. From what I heard they really did some preposterous things and they almost jumped the shark every time doing that. Still now the series is over I'll probably check it out since I don't have to go through the ordeal of waiting for and episode every week or a start of a season every September. Than I'll watch your opinion on the show Brad, cause when I heard you are going into spoilers I stopped the video.
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I enjoyed it and I unlike you am a very deep guy in my own way. I knew where this was going as i was watching it, well maybe not exactly but the ending made sense to me.
My only nagging thing was what was about Walt but i guess you could say that Walt lived somehow? But other than that, it was epic Terry O'Quinn is this masterful fucking guy i mean to go from the ultimate good guy to the ultimate bad guy and have you hanging on every word is just awesome to me.
I think your interpretation of the last scene is just about spot on, because here we have people from all walks of life in one place as a matter of fact the 'sanctuary's' windows even had an islamic script in it which i found classy it was saying no matter what you are who you are your going to end up here if your willing to accept that you belong.
It had me crying in many parts when Sun and Jin noticed the baby and just started talking i cried just a little and as hurley was sitting there wondering about jack i was like....what wait this can't be he can't be dead i'm with you buddy
I don't know how else it could've ended, nor do i expect everyone to agree with me because it's a show where you either take it or leave it good or bad.
all in all i agree and good reactionary vlog about it
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Yeah, you've got the meaning of the flash sideways down. I was never into all the underlying metaphorical muggins either. I wasn't watching the finale for answers as much as seeing the conclusion & whether or not Locke would succeed or if the survivors would finally escape. The Jacob flashback answered any questions I had *SPOILERS* I thought there was going to be a last minute downer when I saw Jack lying on that rock by the water the same way the man in black was at the end of the jacob flashback episode & Jack might wind up being the new smoke monster or force of evil or whatever after being spat out of the light cave. My main question is what the hell will happen to Jin & Suns daughter, she's an orphan in the real timeline. *SPOILERS END*
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It doesn't matter what will happen to Ji Yeon. She'll be raised by Sun's parents and she'll eventually forget entirely about her mother. But ultimately, it doesn't matter.
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I agree with you completely, though I personally don't think the flash-sideways was an afterlife kind of place. I have always seen it as an alternate timeline that gets crossed with the Island timelines. The church scene is the passing on of the characters from the island timeline which has now been erased.
Like the Square RPG Crono Cross, essentially.
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You watch Mad Men, but have you tried Breaking Bad? If you need to show to fill the void I'd go for BB or Treme.
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I second Breaking Bad; its an excellent show. Start from the beginning though!
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I like the show, but I hated the finale. I knew they weren't going to explain everything. I didn't want them to. But the ONE question that kept most people watching and talking around the water cooler and made it a phenomenon, something more than just a fun entertaining show was "What the f*** is that island?" and it's not answered. At all. The only thing that's resolved is that one: the smoke monster's dead. They killed the man who just wanted to leave the island, because he didn't want to blindly follow Jacob, who I still claim is full of shit. The island is a cork keeping out some vague evil force your crazy mom told you about that SHE probably just heard from the LAST person who was guarding it? Nothing bad happened when the light fades that we're shown, other then the island itself breaking apart! All they needed to show was the rest of the world gonig to hell in a hamster ball too, for at least one scene, and I'd have no problem with this. But no. Hurley and Ben could've wasted their whole lives guarding nothing as far as we know.
Two: they resolved the flash-sideways, which turns out didn't matter to the real story at all, which just gets to me because nothing we're shown until the very last moments of the very last episode even HINTS at the ending. It's one thing to make a twist, but give us something to think back and go "Ohhh so THAT'S why that one part happened" or "that's why that one guys said that." This was just a giant 180 out of nowhere, and I felt let down.
I agree with you though. I enjoyed the characters, I enjoyed the drama, but I just can't get over how pointless to the plot the flash-sideways turned out to be. They could have made it a little thing towards the end, but no they have to string us along and make us think it's going to have some significance to the ACTUAL plot going on at the Island. That's probably it. I was more invested in the flash-sideways, because after 5 seasons of the Island which deep down I knew was going to go nowhere, and it did, nothing on the island ended up really changing at all, the characters were finally put in a new situation with a new conflict...and it ends up all being some post-death delusional purgatory world.
And I knew the minute I got into this show "I'm going to hate how this thing ends," but I got addicted. It's one thing to be addicted to a show you don't really like all that much, but be in denial about it. Let me tell you, it SUCKS knowing full well you're hooked on something you honestly could have skipped and not cared one bit...I'm just glad it's over.
Anyone else waiting for a spin-off show?...FOUND? (Ba-dum! TSH!)
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It made me kinda laugh when you wrote: "The island is a cork keeping out some vague evil force your crazy mom told you about that SHE probably just heard from the LAST person who was guarding it?" It just made me think of when desmond first learned about the hatch, it is in some kind of way the same story. Jacob and Desmond are both told they need to do this or else something very dooms-like will happen. Maybe in some kind of way the Island is just like the hatch, there is really no point to why all this happens they just have to do it. I dont know, i just wanted to share my thoughts on that little part
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I don't see your complaints as bad. They're really what made the show great! The ambiguity surrounding the island was the draw of the show, sure, but they didn't need to resolve it because ultimately it didn't matter. The only thing that mattered is that it was the force that drew all these people together. Also if they had shown the rest of the world breaking apart it really would have been jarring because the show is about the island and the people on it. Again, ambiguity is NOT a bad thing!
And to your second complaint, well isn't a giant 180 out of nowhere the definition of a plot twist? :/
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I thought they wrapped it up as well as could be expected. The Island will remain a mystery as it should be, the door was left wide open for spin offs. I doubt this is the last we'll see of Lost, that tit still has some milk left.
Personally I'm looking forward to Weeds and True Blood (with werewolves!). Breaking Bad is AWESOME, some of the funniest darkest humor I've ever seen. Bryan Cranston is amazing, he'll be winning Emmys from this show for as long as it lasts.
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Great television is not sticking an advert at the moment of high tension.
As for unresolved mysteries, it is fine to leave things unanswered if you never planned to answer them. Walt is a prime example which was a massive plot point through the first and second series and then they don't make it into heaven. Equally the numbers keep coming up, but never really explained other than constant coincidences.
The finale was not a crushing disappointment, it was every bit as empty and event led as the last five series. You are right the first series was all about character, but after that it was all gimmicks. A prime example was in the episode 115 where Man in Black explains by sticking a wheel in the light he will be able to leave the island. Where did he get that idea from?Why spend so much time introducing the Tallies in series 2 just to have them all killed off? Why did Juliet suddenly decide to stay on the island in season 5 finale, the choice makes no sense, directly contradicts what she said before and the payoff was that she could die.
Because we all assume that the writers know what they are doing we accept it and we should not accept this kind of lazy event driven writing.
Lost was a show with great promise that was weighted down by a desire to be surprising at every turn. They wrote themselves into holes that they never succeeded in digging themselves out of.
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exactly!
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I was worried about this season. It had it's high points (The Desmond and Richard episodes), but overall, I thought they might be limping to the end. But then this finale kicked my ass. I loved every second of it. I'm surprised that there's some ambiguity about the ending. I thought Christian pretty much spelled it out to Jack (and us), and Brad, you're understanding of it, is exactly it. At least that's how I interpreted it.
I thought it was a nice inside twist at those fans that insisted for years "it's purgatory man!" And it ended up being, the Island, with all it's weirdness, was very real, and it was the flash sideways, the much more grounded looking reality, that was closer to the "purgatory" thing.
Great ending for the series as a whole, and a just a great episode if it had to stand alone.
I got a little bit of that end of a great show depression too.
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Anybody else do this? I generally don't start watching a series until it finishes it's first season. I just don't want to fall in love with a show that goes away after 14 episodes (Journeyman, oh how I missed you).
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I got pretty much what you got from the ending. The "flash sideways" turned out to be a "flash forward" of after they had all died and once they realized it they could choose to move on to the afterlife, whatever that may be. Ben chose to stay behind because he wasn't ready to leave.
It was a great ending. The series starts with Jack opening his eye and it ended with him closing it and dying. I cried and I'm sad to see the series has ended.
I also thought it was a beautiful moment when Hurley asked Ben if he wanted to be his second in command after he became the new "Jacob". Ben struggled for acceptance like that and to be appreciated by Jacob and he finally got it in a sense. It was also great when Hurley said he was a great #2.
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If you like spy stuff check out burn notice, you can watch it on hulu or usanetwork if you don't have cable. Plus it has Bruce Campbell. I personally could never get into Lost, but I agree with you on 24 it needs to end.
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I really enjoyed the ending of Lost. I cried so hard at the end of the show that my eyes started to hurt. I felt like a big piece of my life was ending with the show. Maybe I need to move on just like the flash-sideways characters did.
I'm glad that the show ended in a very satisfying way. The last two shows I really got into, Battlestar Galactica and Dead Like Me, just left me feeling disappointed with their endings(just to clear things up, I don't consider Dead Like Me being canceled the disappointing ending, that awful direct to DVD movie is what ruined Dead Like Me).
I was definitely surprised by some of the things that happened in the finale.
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I really didn't expect that Desmond's efforts in the heart of the island would cause the island to start sinking. That just surprised me. How could Desmond fail? I guess he had no clue what he was really doing. The other thing I wasn't expecting was the ending where they gather together in the church. I thought they were going to get together at the Lamp Post to go bring back the island or something.
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I'm glad the show ended the way it did. While I wasn't expecting the finale to answer all the questions, it did do everything I could have hoped for to wrap up the series. Evil was conquered, people came together and triumphed over adversity, and the ending was open enough to allow leeway with various beliefs concerning one's necrodestination. The only thing that is going to bother me about this show (I wasn't expecting to get an answer for this) is the identity of the invisible man asking Locke for help inside of Jacob's cabin.
One nice thing I liked about the ending of the show was the online fan Q&A Jimmy Kimmel hosted after the show that featured the one and only Kroze asking the cast a question. I know that is a sort of dumb thing to appreciate, but I got a lot out of seeing Kroze in the same room as some of the cast members of Lost.
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What..the hell is Lost?
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I've never seen a single episode myself too
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24 should really end.
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Not a particularly spiritual person myself, but I liked the spiritual/science blend that LOST always went with. The thing that I appreciate most about the finale is that it WAS emotional as hell and was entirely about the characters we, as viewers, grew to love. The most interesting question to me is if the island is just another level of purgatory, as well, since Michael's ghost explained that the whispers were the trapped souls of the dead, basically.
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I loved the finale, hands down one of the most emotional endings I've seen. There's so many people who hated it, but I thought the same way as you did. This was a happy ending, they died in their own time and at the end they reunited with the people who they really cared. It's almost 5am and I can't sleep because all I can hear is that sad song that always made me cry. Not only did the finale was awesome, the whole music was perfect! What else can I say? Smocke and Jack fight was incredible, I went to a FUUUU moment when they cut to commercials xD
Anyway, great video as always, you said just the right words.
Namaste and even if lost is over, it will always live on with all those crazy theories
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Oh... I constantly watch this site and LOST but have to wait on this one until I watch LOST on my DVR... I really wish they'd have just finished it on a Tuesday.
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I used to love Lost. When the show began I told everyone I knew to watch it... called it one of the best shows ever. But the first season really was good. And the end... oh boy. Now with time travel, moving the island, people getting off the island and then coming back again, a fucking smoke monster and all this weird shit - all this stuff that happened since makes it kinda weird to think about how incredible the season finale of the first season was when they were trying to open a hatch on the ground. But it was good. And the brake that followed after that was unbareable. I wanted to go explore the hatch! And then when season 2 came and the hatch was there... I still liked it, but something was off. The show oddly slowed down, while a lot more stuff was happening. The season finale ruined it for me. Before that we'd only been off the island in flashback and I loved that we didn't know anything about the outside world. The island could have been anywhere or anything. Anything could have happened and the logics of "our world" didn't have to apply. But then they blow the hatch and we see Penny on the boat and that is where Lost ended for me. I began season 3, but it was so slow and I just didn't care anymore... I watched about 1/4 of that season and quit on Lost.
Only about two months ago, when the final season started, I began catching up on Lost. Hated the 3rd season at first, but then I kinda got numb to it... I still disliked a lot of the stuff in it, like the way new characters came to the show, how people just came and went off the island as they pleased and all these things that took away from the isolation. I was kinda hooked on when they'd gotten off the island (or some of them) to see why they came back. And the time traveling thing seemed interesting at first, but they went absolutely nowhere with it. I still loved Desmond...
It just became a whole other show. The Lost I fell in love with was about isolated people trying to get off the island. But it became about not really being isolated at all and coming and going more or less how you want...
So I'm kinda glad to see Lost off it's misery. Yeah, I know, a lot of people stuck by ut to the end. Unlike me... Turned my fucking back on Lost! But anyway...
And it's not about getting answers for me. That's what I keep hearing about. "What is the island?", "why are there polar bears there", etc. I don't care. Lost was never about getting answers. I'm glad they didn't explain the polar bears. It's like a painful divorse where she took the children and I got to keep the polar bears and the mystery of what the island is.
I will say it was oddly emotional seeing those flashbacks and the music in Lost is just awesomely classic. It was fun... A weird relief for me.
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I am just glad they didn't make the whole thing all a dream. I thought the white light in the church was really cheesy. I expected like Gabriel to walk out of the light and make Jack an angel or something. It was a good finale to a great series. Did you see the alternate endings? How are they?
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Just seen it, and it was hard, I mean really hard, I felt the same as the characters and I thought about what happened in the 6 years that passed, Jack dying was hard, Vincent made that scene epic.
What you said about the church is the same as I thought, so now I know we're right XD.
To be honest, I don't care about mysteries that aren't solved, otherwise this season (or episode) would be explanation after explanation and they would forget about the real lost, the story behind the persons.
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Definitely check out Breaking Bad!
I highly recommend it.
This show really is great, for example, there is a scene in BB where fucking Danny Trejo gets fucking beheaded with a fucking machete!!!!!
What's not to like? :O
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So, watching the finale, I liked the last 10 minutes, but alot of it just seemed like filler. I did like some epic parts, and as a whole, I was entertained, but after 6 years, I would say that the first 2 hours and 20 minutes were really a letdown considering how many hours and minutes we all put into the show, they could have done alot more. Thankfully the last ten minutes were there to help the show end well.
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At 3:02am on Sunday, I woke up, and out of nowhere the first thing I thought to myself was, "This is the last episode of LOST -- this will be the last time I'll be staying up to be watching this show." I felt so gloomy that I fell back asleep quite quickly. That's some pretty hardcore stuff.
When character John Locke got his memories back, I just about died crying. An inside thing of mine was calling him the "Mistress Man," and I had my close ties to the character for that reason. Seeing him "alive" again at the end, regaining memories of the character I loved so much, had me weeping till the commercial break.
I wish I could say I devoted all six years into watching the show, but I lost track during season 3-5 (school stuff), but miraculously caught up during a marathon showing on Sci-Fi of the EXACT episodes I missed. Wow. Guess some things really do "happen for a reason".
Anywho... the finale was certainly very deep. As it started, a very powerful show, and that's exactly how it ended. The cliff fight was extremely intense; you really had no idea WHO was going to win that one.
Perhaps my ONLY qualm is that... the flash-sideways... while very good in its own right, now looking back on it, seems like a lot of filler in itself. It's quite possible the writers could've introduced a flash-sideways in an episode or two of its own, rather than taking up space throughout the season, the characters gradually finding one another. But, of course, it's never that easy when it comes to LOST.
Still... like in the pre-series finale recap, might as well sell a TV set or two; LOST was the only great show I watched... and now that it's over, there's nothing left at all. I don't watch Idol, I don't watch Dancing, I don't watch reality things or other ABC "drama"; any shows I DO watch are merely rerun episodes of older shows on older channels... LOST was the closest to up-to-date television I ever got. Who would've guessed such philosophy would be so powerful. Now I see why I enjoy the subject so much.
I was never one to look for "answers" during the show, either (though there WERE one or two questions that got me, but I figure if they weren't answered, they probably weren't important), nor see any deep meanings behind anything... but, either way, the show DOES make you think.
What else can I say other than I feel satisfied with the way it ended. It didn't try to be overwhelmingly epic; it didn't try to go out with a HUGE bang. It just sort of... ended, leaving us with a sense of completion. And that I feel is what made the experience as a whole worthwhile.
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Come on Brad, are saying you don't care about the mysterys like what the numbers actually
and the fact the flash-sideways turned out to be purgatory when then spent the last 6 years promising that the ending was purgatory
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It bugged the crap out of me that Walt and Michael didn't make it into the ending. I mean, that's a pretty big omission. Especially considering that Michael was basically one of the big core group of characters in the early seasons.
Also, it really bugged me they never really explained what the deal was with Walt. In the early seasons they made his powers seem pretty damn ominous but eventually that whole subplot just sort of fell off the map when Michael took him off the island. This really disappointed me because I really wanted them to resolve that one.
It's not a terrible ending, I just suspect it's nowhere close to what the writers first envisioned. Nice touch on the dog coming back for Jack at the end thoguh. I got a little misty-eyed there.
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Come on Brad, are saying you don't care about the mysterys like what the numbers actually meant
and the fact the flash-sideways turned out to be purgatory when then spent the last 6 years promising that the ending wasn't purgatory
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They said the Island wouldn't be purgatory, they never said they wouldn't do a thing with purgatory, big difference
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The ending wasn't a purgatory. At least not in the traditional Christian sense. It wasn't someplace they remained until the repented for their sins.
Jack's father told us: It's a place they created so they could be with each other before they moved on.
Also there's no explanation for the numbers that wouldn't be disappointing or stupid. Interpret your own meaning.
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No they only really said it wouldn't be a dream and the island wasn't purgatory though yes some people will think that but thats because they want to complain. I never saw anything where they said oh this is purgatory they said everything on the island was real and it is real then again I liked it so hey. I wrote my oen thoughts on my own blog and truthfully i'm satisfied with it.
in the end it entertained, provoked thoughts and really left you wanting more which is what a movie/tv series should do in my opinion.
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I really enjoyed the ending. What I took it to mean is that everyone in the church ultimately became a part of The Source on the Island, notice the colors that emanate from from the doors after Christian opens them. I didn't expect any of the mysteries to be solved really, because 30 years from now people will still be asking, "What was that damn island?"
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If you're looking for a good show to watch, I'd suggest Justified. Not sure if the premise is your thing or not, but I haven't enjoyed a cowboy story like this since Firefly. I'd suggest you check out the first episode and see if you dig it!
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I must admit that I liked the acting in Lost but thats was it. The story started out great but quickly went downhill. If I wanted to watch a show about purgatory/death I will go watch Life on Mars or Ashes to Ashes (BBC Versions), both are much better written and Life on Mars has one of the most fantastic endings to a series ever.
I agree with you on FlashForward. I was looking forward (pun intended) to seeing it progress.
Just my 2 cents.
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I never saw LOST but six years is a great run especially when leaves one still wanting more.
Too bad about 24 another great show which i saw the first two seasons even though it couldnt keep the momentum going aswell as LOST did storywise.
Thanks for sharing..ADDICT.
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Happy that you liked the finale Brad. Im the same kind of viewer as you. Mystery is fun and all, but in the end it was all about the character drama to me.
Loved the finale. Loved this show. Will miss it.
The way I understood the ending, specifically people such as Michael and Walt missing, was that the most important parts of their lives wasnt on the island, or with the people on it. Walt got off the island, and probably ended up having a long happy life, with a wife and kids. As for Michael, he had his son before he came to the island.
I may be theorizing too much here, but back in the finale of season 4, Christian appeared to Michael, and told him that he could go now. Looking back, I think that this meant that Michael moved onto whatever place everyone else moved onto in last nights finale, at that time.
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Remember, Michael told Hurley that he could never leave the Island after his death. He was stuck there as a whisper. I agree that because Walt left the Island and never came back, so it wouldn't really make sense for him to be there.
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I don't have any thoughts to add other than that I agree with your interpretation of it. But I thought people might like to know that Mr. Eko, Walt, and Michael were allegedly supposed to be there too. According to E!, the actor who played Mr. Eko demanded 5 times the amount of money he was offered, so he was cut. Walt needed to be a 10-year-old boy, and that actor has obviously grown too much to play the part, so he had to be cut. Since Walt couldn't be there, neither could Michael, so they came up with the "stuck on the Island" thing for him.
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The best shows that are on right now (and including soon to be on) are:
The Office - Come on, who doesn't like it? Even if it isn't as good as the british one, it far outlasted it, and is still funny
Community - Man, this one picked up steam quick. Seriously consider watching this show if you haven't. Sometimes it goes into the cheesy territory, but for every contrived romance there's 5 great movie references such as Goodfellas, Terminator 2, The Godfather, Animal House, etc.
Futurama - Seriously, if you don't like this show, I feel sorry for you. This show is gold.
The Colbert Report - The better half of the Daily Show, I think this one is far better. It's got a sense of irony and narcissism to it, and the jokes are not as "fill in the blanks". He cracks jokes that a good comedian would say, whereas Jon Stewart says what you were already thinking.
And I would mention Arrested Development, but they are working on a movie, and they got canceled, so that sucks.
Remember Heroes? That show was great for 1 or 2 seasons, but it got really bad after all of that circus stuff. I watched that show from beginning to end because Monday had nothing better. I never watched Lost, and I lost track of Fringe and Flashforward.
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Reading all these interesting posts it seems as if LOST could have just aswell been alot of symbolism about quantum string theory and how we move on from one adventure to the next without any permanent ending.
Then again it could have been Heaven's Gate and Jim Jones in..THE SYMBOLS.
Oh and glad you enjoyed the finale oh mighty one Cinema Snob of many faces.
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I feel the exact opposite of you about everything lost related except for the fact that we both liked the show.
I wanted more Nicki and Paulo though their death was atleast cool.
Scoundrels are more interesting than spine surgeons I quess.
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I probably would have been pissed if they had answered everything. After all the mystery and ambiguity is a big part of what made the show compelling for me so if they had removed all of that in the finale it would have detracted from it.
Frankly I'm glad that the writers had the balls to give us a thought provoking ending that kept a lot of the mystery intact while giving the characters the proper resolutions that they deserved.
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I have to wonder why Michael and Walt weren't in the church.
Or did I just miss them?
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Wow, Jyri had the *exact* same experience with Lost that I did. I loved the first season, but got progressively frustrated with the second season, then quit watching after the first batch of season 3 episodes, then started catching up again when the final season started.
To be honest, the first season had a distinct feeling that was never really recaptured in the following series. It had an early seasons of the X-Files kind of vibe... like maybe it all had a rational explanation.
The last couple seasons were something more akin to Star Trek... total sci-fi, no basis in reality. Both were good in their own way, but the transition period was a bumpy one.
Actually, it seems like they found their feet again when they finally decided that they were going to end the series after a limited amount of time.
That and the last few seasons being shorter helped too. The first three were like full 22-24 episodes, but the last couple were only in the 16 episode range, which helped with pacing quite a bit.
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When I watched the last episode, I thought to myself, "And now...the bitching begins."
I knew they weren't going to reveal every mystery. Actually, whenever they did answer a question, it just led to more questions. It would have been almost impossible to account for them all.
In the end, I was satisfied, and a little sad too. The last scene with Jack and the dog choked me up a bit. It reminded me of my dog when I was a kid.
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I watched Lost on and off. There were good individual episodes and interesting things going on in most of the episodes I watched, but......
Here's my problem. I like puzzles.
Lost was set up as a puzzle, with a central mystery and therefore a solution. There were clues and Lost was constructed in a way that implied that there were also answers. What those clues turned out be was
For me, with the exception of Locke and Hurely, none of the characters were engaging enough to power a satisfying drama. They all felt a bit flat and bland. Lost was mini-series at heart.
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Dude, you have to watch Breaking Bad. Now that Lost is finished, it's pretty much the single best show still going. If you like good characters, Breaking Bad is gonna make you jizz your pants. The cast is not anywhere near as large as Lost's, but the central characters are all as fascinating, fleshed-out, deep and well-acted as John Locke, Benjamin Linus, Desmond Hume and all the rest.
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If you haven't seen Breaking Bad, you ought to. If you are not hooked by the end of the second episode, you know you will never be (and the gore is fantastic).
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If you want some sci-fi extravaganza, you should see Doctor Who 2005! The Tenth doctor is the only believable badass universe saver character I've ever seen (second to forth season), but Nineth and Eleventh are great Doctors too!
It's funny, it's sci-fi, it's AWESOME! And if you don't believe me, ask Spoony, Linkara or Film Brain, they'll tell you
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I thought the end was very good. I loved Lost and I too am saddened by its ending. I do not understand why people think it is bad? I mean the characters that we all loved through 6 years of watching got to be together with the ones they had been in love with throughout the show. Then they all went to a better place. I thought that was a very happy and fitting ending. It said to me, that in the end the island was not important, it was the people on the island that made it what it was, and their happiness and well-being was all that mattered. Although I wish they had shown Mr.Echo, I liked him. I know the island WAS a character on that show, but the people on the island is what made it great, in my opinion. The island will go on, the people and the connections they made is what was important.
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I know there was a throwaway line about why there was a POLAR FUCKING BEAR on the island,but it would have nice to have seen it explained a bit more.Minor quibble perhaps.
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This is the only explanation for Lost that resolves everything.
In a secret bunker on an uncharted island a tribe of faceless TV executives give a group of small children the opening scene for a story about a plane crashing on an uncharted island. Each child continues the tale. Pretty soon the story takes in polar bears, ghosts, smoke monsters, evil corporations, pirates, torture, hippies, dreams, and even Jesus. Finally the last, small, excitable young tyke gets to finish this epic drama of awesome magnitude. He starts to hyperventilate.
"Kaboooooom! Then the Island is sinking! And rocks start falling! Crash! BANG! And then the good guy and the bad guy start fighting each other! Thwack! Aargh! Aaah! And then Jack is dead and everybody else escapes! Except they don't really escape! Because they're all dead, but, like, not really dead or something! And then the last scene is them all in a church! Because THEY REALLY ARE DEAD AFTER ALL! Or are they?"
THE END
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glenn..its the LSD. Then again it could be last child to end the story gets a free life time membership to every CANDY STORE IN THE WORLD! BABOOM!!!
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Here's a better ending. The story is fired up onto the island through a special hatch in the bunker. Another tribe, this time a ragged band of screen-writers, are then forced to give the kids' magnum opus enough shape for a TV show. But, you're right, the winning kid gets the keys the candy store!
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two shows that you should check out are psych, which is a buddy faux psychic detective show with ample amounts of hilarity and 80's refrences. and burn notice. an ex cia agent is burned from the cia and ends up in miami with his navy seal buddy (bruce campbell) and his crazy ex irish intellegence girlfriend as they try to find the people who burned him. also try dexter since youre a michael c hall fan
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First there is that awesome voice, now you say you like Fringe? EPIC, your officially my favorite person.
As for Lost, I will admit I watched this even though I didn't see the season finale (hell I missed at least 1-3 seasons) there somewhere. Last I remembered they got OFF the Island and Linus was trying to convince them all to go back. I was mad ever since Michael did what he did in the earliest seasons, even though it was for is son i'm sure there could have been a better option at hand. What I did see of the show I loved, but I just lost touch with it, but, now that ever episode has been shown I can go through and watch them all.
I am realistic, but a daydreamer whom enjoys the fantasy and sci-fi (so long as the campyness is kept to a minimum lol), I'll interpret the ending how I please (and that of course is the point of a show like lost, draw your own conclusions).
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Come on. They Mario 2'ed it. It was all a dreammmmm... It's a copout for not having a reason for anything happening. They could've written anything into the show. Aliens, giant insects. They didnt need to put thought into any of it.
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Been watching since day 1, my favorite show along with Dexter. I totally agree with you about everything not needing to be answered. And the fight between Locke and Jack was indeed epic. overall a great show that will be missed. also, i too need to get around to watching Fringe series 2 after watching season 1 in bulk
I posted my own early thoughts on the LOST finale straight after watching it as you asked for other opinions. feel free to let me know what you think, if you agree/disagree etc
http://screwattack.com/blogs/Ponderings-of-an-Irish-Gamer/LOST-Finale-My-Thoughts
(I'll admit I'd never heard of you before your inclusion on TGWTG's Kickassia, but since then I've been going through a lot of your back catalogue. keep up the awesome work dude.)
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Watch Dexter, MadMen and Breaking Bad. A lot better than Lost that's for sure.
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I just finished watching it, Was supposed to have watched it when it was on TV here in Holland last Friday, but I stupidly forgot to tune in on time.
I agree with most of what you said, pretty epic fight-scene, Locke is..was.. really badass, both in the show as a whole and in the ending, though I kinda hoped he would have gotten a more badass death.
I loved how they did the ending with Jack laying down near the bamboo with vincent, recreating the beginning of the show in reverse. Awesome.
I kinda got the same idea about the meaning of ending too, They're all dead & the flash sideways was sort of a purgatory..thing.. until they were ready to move on together because of the experiences they shared with each other. My only gripe was Richard Alpert, why was he not in the flash-sideways at all? I kinda missed that part but as you said, maybe that makes the show so great, because it doesn't explain everything and you need to figure it out yourself.
anyway, that's my opinion about the final Lost episode, and I kinda feel like you now, I've seen the very last episode, no more Lost. Ever.
makes you kinda sad..
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http://thecinemasnob.com/2010/05/24/thoughts-on-the-lost-finale.aspx
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I only saw season 1 in its entirety, it was great with a neat arc and everything, but everything I saw afterwards was horrible, so I don't care about spoilers.
Also when Brad was describing the final showdown, I couldn't stop thinking of the final showdown on Namek.
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