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I saw A Serbian Film as a sort of combination of the good old fashioned exploitation horror films of the 70s mixed with the structure and suspense of an early DePalma film like Dressed to Kill and Blow Out and the disturbing carnage of an Asian horror film like Oldboy or Dumplings. I thought it was great. As for the political implications, I think it's as much an allegory on Serbian war crimes as Last House on the Left is an allegory on the Vietnam war. I think most people are gonna watch this as a horror film foremost, which it is, rather than a political allegory. Anyway, good video as always. :]
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My wife made me to go see this film. I am now convinced not to have kids with her
(Yes that reefers to that infant rape scene in this film, don't see it. You'll be scared for life. I didn't want to fucking see it, hence why I stopped watching the film after that). Its disgusting and not in a good fucking way.
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I agree that this movie is completely fucked up, but I agree with the comment you mentioned: It is not the most disturbing movie I've ever seen. August Underground and August Underground's Mordum are much worse. The only difference is that those movies don't have a pretentious bone to them.
Would like to know your opinion on them, Brad.
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August Underground actually came to mind when he began talking about regretting seeing this movie. I can't say I lost sleep over it, but I really wish I hadn't watched August Underground. It was shameless, fucked up shit. I guess it was well made? Is that even a compliment when talking about films like this? Curious as to what Brad thinks about August Underground.
Can't say I've seen A Serbian Film, didn't see The Human Centipede either. I'd laugh at you if you told me the latter was more fucked up than Mordum. If this movie really is worse than Mordum? Yeah, fuck that forever. I don't want to see it. I don't even want to see it as-is, I thought Salo was an awful watching experience. If it's less enjoyable than Salo, I'll pass.
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The August Underground movies were pathetic. So much hype for what seemed like a bunch of retarded high school drop outs running around doing things they THINK are disturbing. OooOOooo we put maggots on a baby doll, aren't you, like, so messed up now?!?!
So boring, and such a waste of time I was actually angered by the fact I was suckered into watching it.
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Because this was a horror movie I took it lightly. When I was about 17 years old I read a lot of extreme sex stories and was just very curious. The more intense the better and I wanted to know all the fetishes out there. That being said nothing in this movie was new to me. Nothing in this movie surprised me and made an impact on me.
I actually found some dark humor in some parts. Like the part with the preg woman that you danced around. How enthusiastic the director was after wards was kind of funny to me. I found it to have a bit of a statement about society and what is crossing the line, how far is too far etc. That I enjoyed. I enjoy any movie that is thought provoking.
I thought the ending was quite enjoyable and shocking. I think that is my favorite part if that is ok to say that. If it was a drama I would of been impacted more but it was a horror film so I didn't sympathize really with the characters. I enjoy the drugs they put him on and how he acts. I enjoy the thought of someone that I trust brainwashing me forcing me to do things. I have said too much lol.
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You not recommending a movie on account of it being too fucked up is the best recommendation any exploitation movie can have.
I'll be watching it tonight!
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you'll regret it.
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From what I've heard, it's basically kind of like a live-action version of Mai-chan's Daily Life. How odd, I was reading that ealier today... But anyway. Let's make baby-paste, anyone?
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The scene he refused to talk about involved a guy with an erection, and baby who is less than a minute old.
Take this information, and do with it what you will.
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I don't know, I went back and looked at that scene again. I can't say I'm fazed by it, maybe just because I don't have kids or whatever. It wasn't like they showed anything actually happening, but I guess as with the classic horror films it's what you don't see that really scares you. Nice term for the genre, though ^^
Personally, if there was a scene that caught my attention, it was the final fight with Rasa after the sunglasses come off and what becomes of him. It was certainly the most interesting way to have gone in the film.
I can definitely think of more disturbing films, but of course this is a matter of I guess taste, or perhaps in this case, distaste.
Final thought- Petar will become the new Raab Himself. I have a feeling that the original must have had a similar experience to be able to perform such feats.
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What could be more "disturbing" then this movie ? I don't know of any movie to date that can touch it.
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If that bad? Yes. But my problem with this move is that it was so comically ridiculous that it didn't disturb me. That scene in particular was obviously made specifically to be the most offensive thing possible, but it was so over the top that I couldn't even be offended. I just sat there thinking "I'm pretty sure that's not actually anatomically possible."
Also, the main character's comically large fake rubber penis killed a lot of the suspension of disbelief for me.
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What would you say if I said this movie didn't disturb me? Sure what was happening was very fucked up, but it's still just a movie.
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Reading the wikipedia article for a Serbian film was enough of a soul draining experience for me to know not to watch it.
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Same here.As a Father of a 3 year old the article made my physically feel sick.
(No I did not throw up)
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I have a 3 year old too and this also made me feel sick. I guess I'm a prude. I wonder if Eli Roth would ever try to put this in one of his movies. I miss the good old days when horror was just people having promiscuous sex got hacked up by Jason.
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The one thing you're wrong about, Brad, is that SALO' is -NOT-, mind, -NOT- "just a movie about rape and torture". Pier Paolo Pasolini was an intellectual, pure and simple, and NOT a pure exploitation director. That movie -DOES- symbolizes the "corruption of power by the hands of fascists" (like you put it on your Snob video about SALO'), not to mention that, although partially inspired to the novel by Marquis De Sade, SALO' portrays in several parts tortures and humiliations that political prisoners and partisans were ACTUALLY submitted to by the "Black Gangs" (irregular Fascist combat groupments) during the last months of the Fascist regime in Italy.
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Yes, It was absolutely necessary to show the audience video of people eating feces and being raped and tortured to tell the extremely complex, high minded and thought provoking message of "Fascism is bad." It's just that nobody else understands it because they're not intellectuals like you and Pasolini.
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"nobody else understands it because they're not intellectuals like you and Pasolini"
Well at least you have enough brain power to figure that out.
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You're full of shit, Salo wasn't intellectual.
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It's necessary to show rape and torture to talk about violence? No. So fuck Kubrick and A Clockwork Orange. It's necessary to show murders to talk about the effect of mass media on society? No. So fuck Oliver Stone and Natural Born Killers. It's necessary to show people dying to talk about drugs? No. So fuck Danny Boyle and Trainspotting.
Yeah. Fuck all that intellectual shit. Me and Adam White Chocolate Russo likes only like only classic movie that don't try to talk about nothing. And it's not because we don't understand art at all, it's because all the other people are pretentious assholes.
God man, try to think before judging and insulting...
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For someone who has such a hugely stupid opinion of A Clockwork Orange, I'm not surprised to see that you neglected to mention the fact that he DOESN'T SHOW RAPE IN THE FILM, NOR DOES HE SHOW TORTURE.
He implies them, and the most disturbing the film gets is him hitting and stripping a woman, another gang stripping a woman, and a video demo of a ton of people supposedly "raping" a woman, while it really looks pretty fake.
A Clockwork Orange isn't pretentious, it's genius, and if you're seriously going to say that Kubrick is terrible because one of his movies implies rape in a few parts, and doesn't show pretty much ANYTHING, then I'd rather be an intellectual because at least I have some sort of clue as to what I'm talking about.
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Ok, try to read again my comment and, now, try to read it ALL, not just the first three lines. I was trying to be sarcastic about the comment by "Adam White Chocolate Russo". I was trying to say that "if Pasolini is a pretentious asshole because he used to show eating shit as a metaphor of something else, by the SAME logic other artists like Kubrick, Stone or Romero are pretentious assholes as well".
Seriously man! You love Kubrick with his cryptic stuff like 2001 but you didn't get some stupid sarcastic comment?!?!
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A Serbian film is basically a dark-and-edgy reboot of the Aristocrats joke.
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So I wasn't the only one thinking that.
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You only found one questionable scene in the film? Isn't there two of those scenes? I think the film is a masterpiece. It's definitely not for everyone. At least you reviewed it even though you didn't like it. As someone mentioned August Underground's Mordum has scenes right up there with those two particular disturbing scenes in A Serbian Film. Possibly, Niku Daruma (Psycho The Snuff Reels) is up there too.
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Hm, sounds like a modern reduced version of 120 Days of Sodom (the actual book. btw it's a great read)or a crossover of said book and modern "snuff" movies. But De Sade's book also was supposed to be a political allegory (*heh* the Marquis actually wrote stuff like this for fun so go figure what the makers of A Serbian Film were up to).
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Brad, i loved you and your site already but after hearing what you said about greg araki has earned you a special place in my heart. I've felt the same way about his movies for a long time especially "the doom generation". it represents all the worst psuedo intellectual pretentious shit heads that give alternative subcultures a bad image, much like the 90's goth and grunge crowds that ate up shit like "totally fucked up" and "the doom generation".
GO BRAD!
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I disagree with your view of The Doom Generation. Greg Araki wasn't trying to be pretentious with his film. He was explicitly going for shock value and humor.
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After reading about 'that scene' in an above comment, I want to know how the hell anyone can call this a good movie. Political allegory? Fuck you. There's some things you just don't put in movies.
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"There's some things you just don't put in movies."
It's called fiction and makeup, idiot. You're either for freedom for expression or not, and if you're not for it go fuck yourself.
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I'm for freedom of expression, but there's really no point in having a scene where a guy fucks a baby. It serves no purpose, and it's just for shock value. It's just a cheap, pointless attempt to get attention.
And what's with your overly-harsh reaction to the guy reacting negatively to the film? I can only assume that you're a fanboy of the movie, since you're trying to defend this piece of shit. Yeah, it's "art," but it's just pointless exploitation. Calling someone an idiot for seeing this movie for what it is shows just how stupid you really are.
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Yep, 'cause simulated child porn is totally okay to show in theaters, or anywhere. That's not freedom of expression, that's just pointless exploitation. Unless, of course, you're all for baby-fucking.
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The only two movies i've seen that I think are a bit disturbing(but still really damn good. I recommend them)is El Topo and Holy Mountain. I barely got through them, but they had nothing close to baby rape. I guess A Serbian Film is really not for me, to an extreme degree.
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A Serbian movie WAS something I wanted to see. I just heard the title, I study Eastern Europe. It's just a f'ing snuff film. Crap! Jack Ass 3D, I am sold!
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Also, the idea of a political message in A Serbian Film. I haven't seen it, but I have a feeling i will completely agree with you on calling bullshit. There are tonnes of films that have come out of the Balkans in the last 15 years that deal with the former-Yugoslavia, and they didn't stoop to using "Torture Porn", the subject of the political decay and xenophobia in that region is vile enough to stand on its own without the need of a gory gimmick.
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im down...buying the serbian movie atm and will look into it - ofcourse for curiosity but also for interest... i never heared of that movie and it seems to be pretty over the top o.O
anyway thanks for the jackass review and go on with this great stuff
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Saw in months ago in a Film Festival in South Korea and I had same reaction with you, Brad. There is that certain scene that I felt I just didn't need to see. But as time passes I remember it as a good films (not excellent though') and part of it is because I found it quite shocking. I still think that particular rape scene is not necessary and just put it for shock purpose. But anyway, I think it has quite a merit just being able to shock a so experimented audience.
The film was the third in a marathon formed by an Argentinian rape and vengeance film called "I'll Never Die Alon" that was just OK, and a quite explicit Japanese gay film, that was sure a film I'd unsee if I could.
"A Serbian film" has been premiered last week in "Sitges Fantastic Film Fesrtival" in Spain, and has had the usual reaction. I've seen in this same festival the remake of "I Spit on your grave", that tried so hard to be more extreme than the original showing a lot of torture in screen but just fails being less shocking than the one from three decades ago. Lame. I'd like to hear your opinion on this one.
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Yes, A Serbian Film is pretty much on the same level of intensity as de Sade's 120 Days of Sodom (btw: Saló is not - nowhere near actually, as it is just a tame rip-off. Nothing out there is as fucked up as de Sade's original - before this maybe.). It is kind of predictable though. "Newborn Porn" was very surprising, but from that scene on, you pretty much know what is going to happen. For me it is a masterfully executed piece on male sexuality, escalation and humanity. For me the political component - the social trauma of the Balkan Wars - is just added bonus. I liked it, although it is hard to recommend.
You see, the film highlights the very "trend" Brad describes himself: Every half a year, we need something more extreme. It's not the film makers that are fucked up - it's us as a society that is fucked up in demanding this escalation. That this film had such a huge impact on Brad, shows that it works. It makes you question your own preferences and actions. It obviously made Brad think.
After all those almost comical, cheap exploitation films, here comes a movie with high production values, that shows us all the unpleasantries aggregated. We don't like to see that, but this is sort of the point.
But hey, to each his own
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Just out of curiosity, what does this movie has to say about 'male sexuality'?
I was kind of looking forward to watch the movie after I checked the trailer (a while back), but I really don't want to anymore. Especially after having read the Wikipedia page.
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Well, they give the main characters drugs, as Brad mentions. But they are not mainly to make him forget his deeds, but to remove his inhibitions. They basically turn him into a ravaging ever-horny beast whose biggest goal is to get off somehow. So technically he is not forced to do any of the things he does. They just flip his switch and present him with a situation.
Is there such a beast in all of us and is it just our intellect that holds it back? Male sexuality has traditionally been associated a lot with dominance and violence. What makes his actions so hard-hitting is that he's not at gunpoint. He's just really really horny (you can of course debate the genuineness of his feelings or whether they are mostly drug-induced, but there actually is a fair amount of character development to help you out with this).
I don't know about females but I think most males can attest to the fact, that sex-hormones are powerful powerful stuff and can impare your judgement quite a bit. This film just shows it to the extreme.
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Email me dude you are on my level. llgodsinll@gmail.com. Like minds are a rarity.
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So you're not sure whether your intellect is actually the only thing stopping you from doing things like this? Well, first thing, I think if that's really the way you feel and not something you just say to come off as deep and insightful, you should get your head checked. Second, you shouldn't extrapolate and conclude that this is most probably a general male trait. If you really think that just beneath the surface there's a beast in every man just waiting to do things like what happens in this movie, well then I guess you must be either completely delusional or again, you're just trying to come off as insightful and deep.
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A very good, intelligent and insightful comment.
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Always wondered what would Snob say about it.
The guys who made Serbian film are huge fans of exploitation movies (American but also Asian and those are the really sadistic ones). They even had a small TV show where they screened and talked about their favorite f-d up scenes in trash cinema.
Father of one of the authors is one of the most celebrated Yugoslav and Serbian directors. His films were slightly unusual talkie dramas about sex, love, political freedom, existentialism and very heavy on the atmosphere (so-so on the story). Nudity and passionate sex scenes in these films were somewhat unusual for Yugoslav/Serbian films at the time. His movies were not violent.
His son, however, being a fan of violent sh#t (I just made a Snob reference
Being friends with a lot of famous people and having a dream to make their own exploitation and yet relevant (political) movie, the crew gathered well known Serbian actors and made this love letter to their favorite genre, but also a comment about the society and it's fascination with violence and ruthlessness.
Serbian film, while slightly grounded in the country's gray reality, is above all else an exploitation film. You can see that it's a love letter to genre because of it's extremely dark humor. Imagine the darkest, filthiest, most disgusting, sickest joke (about rape, pedophilia or sadism) and you'll understand the over the top nature of this film. It's like they filmed the darkest joke you've ever heard. This is not your slapstick horror black comedy. Oh, no. It's the blackest, bleakest type of bad humor possible. Prime example is the scene that Brad (can't) talk about... There is actually an old prime school joke in Serbia that goes something like that scene. It's the darkest of the dark humor and it's suppose to make you feel f-d up.
Why do you watch comedy - to laugh. Why do you watch exploitation - to be sickened. Why would you wanna make yourself feel ill? Hell if I know. Maybe you're into S&M or something.
Anyway, I didn't really like the movie because of the week story and the way over the head satire. If only there was a storyline that actually carried the violence (like Tarantino) and not just be an excuse for it...
Should you see this? Only if you're a fan of violent exploitation films. Do not watch it for sex. It exploits violence, not love. It's an exercise in how many ways to abuse someone with a di#k.
This film made a certain ruckus in home country (how much of that was produced for marketing sake is another story).
Now for some good news. There is a similar Serbian film:
Life and Death of the Porn Gang (2009) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1388427/
It also has porn and snuff in it's plot. However, it has better story, much better satire and the violence is not as extreme. It's still depressing though. Kind of Deliverence meets Rocky Horror Picture Show (only without fun, music or SF). Maybe Brad would like this attempt...
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Long time watcher, first time commenter.
All I can say (and it's not much, I haven't seen the movie) is that Brad said he cannot unsee. BRAD said that he can not unsee. I'll be giving this movie a wide, WIDE birth.
Granted, when you spend your time lurking some of the parts of the internet that I used to when I was younger, you get to see things that will scar you for life. And unlike a movie that was shown to audiences, you can never be sure if what you saw on the internet was real or not.
I never head of this film before this review, just listening to Brad talk about it was depressing. I might just buy a copy for the sloe purpose of throwing it in a camp fire. Now if you'll excude me, I'm going to try and live the rest of my life with out ever thinking abou some of the crap I've read in these comments.
(sorry if this gets posted twice, my browser is giving me problems this morning)
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I completely agree with you on calling BS on seeking some kind of political symbolism on movies like Salo, you don't need to show people eating crap and pissing on each other for that.
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Odds are decent that everyone here (Brad included) will hate me for either sounding like a film snob (and/or being one, minus the snooty-ness/English major need for "hidden meaning" and all that garbage) or asking this question, but...
What exactly is wrong with classifying movies as "torture porn"? Brad made a good point that similar (and 'worse') films have been getting made for a long time, but... so what? Is it an offensive term to people who enjoy this kind of film? Is it a particularly inaccurate phrase? If a movie has little-to-no plot/story beyond whatever premise allows the characters to have horrific things happen to them, what's objectionable about that classification?
To me, it's not really any different than calling a film a "slasher" or "chick flick" or "action blockbuster" or "artsy indie shit." I don't like most things I'd call "torture porn," but I also hate (far more than the former) pretentious indie films about sad, middle-aged suburbanites having being depressed and having sad sex.
Maybe I use (or think of) the term differently. Either way, I'd appreciate clarification (instead or, or at least in addition to, crucifixion).
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His umbrage to the term isn't for the term itself -- it's the recent cultivation of the term for modern day horror films when in fact these types of exploitation films have been around for decades.
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Ah. Fair enough. Thanks for the explanation.
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Apparently the line is child porn. That's a good line.
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I don`t want to watch this film, I really don`t. It's one of those films that I can go on my way and completely bypass without losing any sleep. I've heard that Human Centipede was the worse thing to watch, or the most disturbing films ever, but I laughed at that, quite hard I may add. I read the description on wikipedia and after seeing Brad's reaction, I think I'll just go watch Star Trek again.
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Don't worry I'm not going to see this fucked up piece of masochistic shit.
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I've seen art films that are semi-snuff films, so I guess those are worse than A Serbian Film. Still, I would rather watch people doing weird things to their dicks than A serbian film though
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semi-snuff? Whatm they only half kill the woman? Or maybe just cut of a hand and leave it at that?
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Yeah, AMC screwed the Kerasotes theater by Parkway Point up when the takeover happened in January. They also fucked up both the Kerasotes Showplace 6 and the Mall Theater in Quincy. My friend Drew and I went to see Inception. The staff were even more rude than they were before, and the prices had gone up on everything. And, they suck on student discounts too.
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While you saying you regret watching this movie is quite a statement, I would have to say it all depends on what you find disturbing. If the comments do tell the scene you meant, then I suspect I would easily find a movie I find more disturbing. I should add that I haven't had the chance to see most films usually called as such, like Salo or I Spit On Your Grave, though Cannibal Holocaust didn't bother me much when I watched it alone or with my roommates. I've yet to come across an exploitation film that sounds like I would regret watching it more than I'd regret not watching it, and nothing here gives me the idea it would be otherwise.
On a different note, saying films like Serbian or Salo have an ulterior meaning is total bullshit. They are made to shock people, any meaning attributed is by those wishing to justify the visuals within. That does not take away from the possible purpose of some movies though, for example Cannibal Holocaust has a strong argument as a commentary on the treatment of what the industrialized society views as barbarians and human animals by the so-called civilized world. Though I sincerely doubt that statement was in the creators' minds as it was made.
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Lol
Personally I went into it looking for something fucked up (since I too was intrigued by the hype) and it didn't disappoint. I like shocking stuff. As long as people aren't getting hurt for real that is.
So when the Newborn Porn bit came I was like 'holy fuck!' hehe. It was definitely out there lol.
But yeah I don't buy into the art thing either. That's why I said it was a good modern exploitation. It succeeds in being fucked up and that's why I watched it.
Plus I like grossing out my friends by mentioning it hehe.
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I've heard of A Serbian Film a few months ago but have yet to check it out cuz of all the pedophilia I hear thats in it and that baby scene I heard about sounds so fucked up and insane and like you said and I'll say the same I'm not a prude when it comes to films that try to shock you but pedophilia is just fucked up I might check this is out one of these days but have no desire to at the moment anyway off the top of my head the most shocking films I can think of that I ever seen were the Vomit Gore trilogy & the August Underground trilogy as for Jackass I saw the first 2 movies and thought they were alright but I'm not a fan of them I do LOVE the show though and think the show is alot better than the movies
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Yeah, even here in Keokuk, Iowa got effected by the AMC/Kerasotes thing. I have been down to Quincy back in August to see The Expendables. The theather was fine and we didn't have any problems.
Anyway, my thoughts on Serbian Film. Even through I haven't seen the movie. Its something I wouldn't see. Just the comments above about the certian scene, pretty much made up my mind. Its something that can't watch.
I know, I probably will be catching Jackass 3D sooner or later. Since we all need some fun movie sometimes. And plus I want to see Bam gets pwned again.
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Wow, I can't believe you watched this. I can't believe that after I watched your review I went out and looked up what the thing you wanted to unwatch was. Just reading a tiny little description of what it was made me sick. And you had to watch it. Dude, you need to get sloshed, and bad, preferably during a Caligula drinking game.
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Oh Brad I am so happy that you loved Jackass 3D! I have been a fan since I was 10 and this was so amazing to me to see those wonderful men taking dildo's to the face and puking in 3D! I was so happy with how it turned out!
Unfortunately I couldn't go to the premiere night here so I had to go to the next day showing and it was the WORST showing I have ever been too. Me and my friends where there with about 10 other people and they where all assholes. They only laughed once and a while and I tried to clap at the end and no one did. It was terrible. I did sneak in some snacks and drinks though, but it wasn't as good as your showing it seems. I wish I could have gone with you!
Anyways it was great to seem Bam cry. I love all of them equally, but dammit all if it isn't hilarious to see Bam cry like a bitch!
I plan on seeing it at least 2 more times. I wish I could go with you!
Love ya Brad!
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Let's play a game...
"Newborn Porn"
"Undercover Son Sodomy"
If those two sentences hold some kind of appeal to you (in context to the content of this film or for any other reason), turn yourself into the proper authorities.
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As someone who works in a movie theater, the long waits between showtimes are usually for two reasons. The first being so that there is plenty of time to clean the theater, as sold out shows, especially something like Jackass draw messy crowds, and the second being to hopefully limit how many people line up before the film is seating, because when too many people line up, it becomes a fire hazard, and incredibly frustrating
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"The Black Cat" can possibly considered torture porn. Bella Lagosi rips off Boris Karloff's skin. That's about as old as you can get. Outside of plays, mythology, & legends. Apparently their is an underground film called "Mordrum" that I've heard is the most fucked up film ever made. *.* It's a fake snuff film in the grain of "Flower of Flesh & Blood" though; which I've seen. And really looks fake outside of the eyeball gag. I haven't seen "Mordrum" and couldn't watch "Aftermath" I don't like films based on gimmicks at all. Plot & characters I like; but not let's see how disgusting we can make something. Their is also a Mexican film with child rape in it. A friend of mine wanted me to see that I know about. I'm facinated by what gets to people but on my quest for underground films I kinda reached a stopping point and pretty much only like good films now or search for those.
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Oh come on Brad, that movie was tame as fuck compared to what you see on the Internet nowadays. There are literally thousands of clips of people being killed, raped and mutilated. A Serbian Movie was just a bunch of cheesy effects and ridiculous overacting put together.
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I did see A Serbian Film couple of weeks before, and quite frankly I didn't like it very much.
I basically agree with the premise that it's mostly done for shock value. To me it didn't feel like hidden messages about the serbian goverment and how the serbian people where abused and destroyed... you can try to make that connection if you want to, since the main characters brother is a policeman and he's mostly behind it (at least that's what I assumed from the finale).
However, to me the only real disturbing thing in it was the director, Vukmir. He made me really uncomfortable, for being so completely insane, but believable at the same time. People like that exist, and that's the horror!
As for the violence and sexual stuff, I thought it was neither that scaring nor disturbing, including that often cited baby rape scene: bizarre, yes; cruel, certainly; unnecessary, sure; but such things (and worse) happen, so there wasn't much surprise. However, it's nothing I NEED to see ever again in a movie...
Interestingly, it's not even on my Top 5 list of movies that disturbed me. Maybe I have a very weird personality, but it just wasn't that disturbing, unlike movies like Irreversible, Haute Tension or Eraserhead, I felt bored most of the time watching it.
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Everyone knows the most disturbing movie of all times is the rocky horror picture show
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August Underground's Mordum was far more graphic in the child rape.
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Interesting review. Although I wasn't as shocked as you seem to be, I like the very personal viewpoint you present in the video.
It's just Serbian-Exploitation. And although I side with you at the point of that this movie is not nearly as political as it wants to be, but there is a huge load of references and symbolism for the last years of serbian culture. (Like the childpsychologist who works for the state and is a mastermanipulator and based on Milosevic, his henchman all wear police uniforms, etc. etc.)
So, at the end it's a 50/50 thing in my opinion but what's crazy is, that "my" generation seems to not be so shocked about this like "the older ones". (Sorry, man, if you now feel old. Hehe)
Maybe it's really because "we" are just too rughed up to feel to emotionanly touched by it. Or it's just the sometimes really silly acting and all the splatstik violence. (I think only the "babyscene" and the machete-scene are actually in the realms of this reality. The suffocaition from dick-in-mouth would be pretty painfully for the dude and about the eye-cock-thing: That's just fucking impossible. Eye sockets, anyone?)
At the end I just have to say: Well, at least you've seen the movie, cause I was curious as hell since summer when I saw it, because of what you'd think about it. And thank God Jillian didn't walk in the room.
...that could have been pretty bad.
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Thanks to you and Co-Host 3000 from Spill.com for warning people to see this film. Makes me glad that the most fucked up film I've seen is Itchy The Killer.
Now I know you said Serbian Film is worst than Cannibal Holocaust and Salo, but is it worst than Napoleon Dynamite?
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Well after I red your review I sat down and watched it and you know what? Salo for me still remains the most disturbing movie I have ever seen, if only because of the whole atmosphere of it where characters had no way out - to die or participate and eventually die anyways, here we have a guy who voluntarily walks into this - who works in this kind of sphere, just not to this extreme. The ideas witch movie suggest aren't too much to handle - pedophilia, necrophilia, snuff, all this is and old stuff, if we would talk about disturbing ideas Human centipede imo would take the win in that category. And in the end infant scene didn't disturb me at all, just because it was too fake'ish looking.
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Hearing that this "movie" has been made has actually made me quite depressed.
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You don't want to see this movie. You don't want to. Keep your damn innocence. I just read the unmentionable scene and no. Just no. I get off of some weird shit, but that? At that point it is not a movie, it is a stupid pointless snuff film.
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Hah-hah!! Your Bam Margera impression cracked me up.
And A SERBIAN FILM is pretentiious, sub-Gaspar Noe dogshit.
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I'm a 15 year old kid.. I have watched some of the most disturbing films that were ever created. But when I watched serbian film with my Gf and her friends and my friends. They all left my house around the time the Pregnant lady was having her baby. I sat through the whole movie and in the end I just walked away and had nightmares on that 1 scene... But to tell you the truth this is a movie I kinda liked in a twisted way.... I know you think i'm crazy but it's true... WOW I wonder what my gf might say when i tell her this!!!!! Anyways great review and JACKASS 3D WAS FUCKING AMAZING
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Have you ever seen Cannibal Holocaust and if so, do you have the same reaction to it as you did for A Serbian Film?
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For Brad, I'll deny my curiosity and skip A Serbian Film. That way he can at least he know he prevented one viewing.
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Man, you guys are a bunch of wussies. Just a couple of clicks away there are websites that have videos of real people being tortured to death and you get shocked by some pretentious, european junkfest. Hell, they don\'t even show that much (in A Serbian Movie) of what little gore they have. Also, that scene with a toothless throat rape was hot as hell, I actually jerked off to it (not in a movie theater, that would be messed up).
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The fact that you know how to find images of real torture and would actually grade a work of fiction against them, worries me far more than a piece of garbage like Serbian film being made. You want to talk about the awful situation there? Then make a proper movie about it. The directors of this shit haven't the talent for that though, instead creating an exploitation flick and trying to pass it off as having any meaning beyond "we thought of some fucked up stuff to get some attention, let's film it".
It's shit and has no merit. Shock with no meaning, rhyme or reason is completely worthless.
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Hey Brad, BRAAAD! Did you know that you totally look like Eddie "The Eagle" Edwards? http://api.ning.com/files/IOXESNBgS2UddYzz40vW-1-0mr068ipGJiOp3FV5gHNB46tBpXqgZBRBTqcQL-ioYAJdeV0i2g60-06SDAxfBXja0*pvVMV8/eddie.jpg
Jesus Christ, what's up with that?
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...yeeeah, I can't see it. At all.
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Hey Brad, I saw Jackass 3 without the 3D. I saw the 2D version of it. It's funny as shit! I saw it with my friend, we had a good time.
OH! Brad, if you are reading this, don't forget that this coming Wednesday is when you appear on my podcast, Attack of The Awesome at 2 PM CST.
I'll talk to you on Wednesday, dude!
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I'll totally take your word for it.
I'm not interested in "A Serbian Film".
You've saved another soul.
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I just finished downloading this movie, so I have yet to watch it, either alone or with someone else. It has English subtitles, so that's good, right. Anyways, from what I saw in the red band trailer, it looks interesting. I've seen worse though, but I'll save that for after I watch the film. It can't be as bad as Cannibal Holocaust, some weird-ass Asian snuff film that I watched which was kind of like Videodrome, Splice (though that was pretty tame, until the end), Martyrs, or Antichrist. If you want to see William Dafoe unconscious with a boner, and a naked chick jerking it off till blood spurts out, than this film will cater your needs. Or if you want to see a mutated creature made from the main characters DNA along with being spliced with some other animals, and than see it get fucked by Adrian Brody or it raping Sarah Polly, then Spice is the film for you. Oh SPOILER alert. Seriously, go watch them.
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I decided to read the plot synopsis on Wikipedia about halfway through this so I could know what you were talking about. And wow it's like what the fuck were you thinking when making this did you really need to tell this story, really? And at the end of it I came to the conclusion that A serbian film is the filmed version of the Aristocrats joke. That HAS to be it. Cause it's got it all there rape, child rape, brutal killings, penis EVERYTHING! This film maker must have heard that joke and not heard that it was a joke and thought that it was a real story being thrown at him. and his weird fucked up little mind rolled with it and thought that this story had to be told. So everyone now you have the filmed version of the aristocrats joke. HO-FUCKING-RAY
On Jackass I'm glad you enjoyed it man. This is one of those movies I'm never sure your would like but hey you did so that's good you at least got to see one good movie this week.
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I am taking your advice brad and avoiding "A Serbian Film" all together. Because if it's something you say you regret seeing..that is saying something. I really hate those pompous art film diretors that put together this shit and call it artistic..because it gets a "reaction" out of you. I'm am with brad, if you want to do a film on historical atrocities, cut the symbolic bullshit and actually flim it. Regardless of it's absurdity, Men behind the sun was at least up front about it. It'll drive the point home better and not make you look like a sick pervert for making it.
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Ignoring how terrible A Serbian Film is, that was an awesome Kermit impression.
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Wow, Brad. There couldn't be a bigger "Keep Away" warning on a film than your review on "A Serbian Film" In all of the exploitation, shock and horror films you're reviewed (excellently, I might add), This time I've seen something I've never seen on your reviews.
You look sad.
If the images in this flick were painful enough for you to vlog about them like that, then no f'ing way will I get near that thing. Big thanks for the warning. Of course, there are fans on the site that will see it anyway. Don't feel bad that you couldn't convince them. Some lessons need to be learned the hard way. Good luck to ya.
(P.S., you can claim "hangover", but I ain't buying it.)
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I read the plot summary on wikipedia, and it's all I need to know about the movie. When I read the director's comments about what this shit "symbolizes," he lost any credibility he claimed to have. I was happy when Brad called bullshit on that.
It's meaningless to try and "outdo" other movies in the shock value department, it gives off the impression that the film makers are sick and take pleasure in others suffering. What ever happened to simply telling a good story?
For anyone who sees the "good" in this movie, I'd rather not know you. If that makes me self righteous, so be it.
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Brad... you say you haven't seen movies more fucked up than this... so have you seen the August Underground series? Guinea Pigs series? Murder Set Pieces? Yeah, the movies you mentioned weren't all that fucked up. As far as gore movies go, those that I mentioned here are pretty fucked up. August Underground more so than the others. Only thing those movies don't have going for them is production value... but there was a reason for it. But I suppose you'd hate those if you haven't seen them. In short, they're the home videos of a serial killer. Random clips of him and friends fucking around suddenly cutting to torture, rape, and murder.
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It's one thing to be disapproving or skeptical about Srđan Spasojević's interpretation of his own work, who has seemed to crawl out of some hole in Serbia with something nasty and provoking. It's another to pass off Pier Paolo Pasolini, a famed intellectual and true renaissance man of many brilliant fields, including poet, philosopher, novelist, painter, and actor as a smut peddler with Salò. Watch his Teorema, Porcile, and Accatone. You'll understand the man's position a bit more.
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It's one thing to pass off Srđan Spasojević for making something nasty and provocative, as he is some random nobody who has crawled out of a hole in Serbia. It's another to call Pier Paolo Pasolini, genuine renaissance man and intellectual, distinguished poet, journalist, philosopher, linguist, novelist, actor, painter, and filmmaker as a smut peddler. Please, watch Teorema, Accatone, and Porcile. Too many people know Pasolini for nothing but Salò. Whether you like it or not, please know where he's coming from. I don't see how anyone can regard Salò as shock for its own sake after familiarizing themselves with Pasolini.
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I'll be honest, I was really suspecting a man to burst out at the very end and shout,
"THE ARISTOCRATS"
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I read the wikipedia entry for 'A Serbian Film' and watched the trailer for it on YouTube.
I think that will suffice.
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I haven't seen A Serbian Film yet. I will watch it thought. After watching 3 Guys 1 Hammer last week i'm sure i'll be able to get through A Serbian Film without any problems.
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I just finished watching serbian film... and honestly I wasn't shocked at all.
I honestly think Salo is far more disturbing and gross.
Serbian film is extremely well made and well acted. While on the perverse side i didnt find it more disturbing than a hostel or saw. I watched it with my wife and she only turned away at the "one" scene. Which was IMHO more silly that gross. It was just absurd so it didn't have much impact.
Overall i can see they "symbolism" and bu it in part but , yeah its totally an exploitation film. But it is nowhere near the level of Salo or cannibal holocaust. I would put it as a Hostel-lite at best. My guess is that some people are more disturbed by the sexual aspects more than the standard torture stuff in most releases.
But seriously.. the death by skull f**k at the end was seriously awesome.
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Ooh. I see a vhs of Snatch on your shelf there. Such a great movie. Everyone should watch that.
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I've actually been looking forward to seeing this movie for a couple of months now, mostly because I read a review of it after it was screened at a Toronto Film Festival. The review actually wasn't pretentious, either. It basically said, "Hey, like fucked up movies? Then check out 'A Serbian Film', it's pretty fucking twisted."
So, I don't know if that makes me a bad person, but that kind of caught my interest. I've seen some pretty fucked up movies, but none of them ever really disturbed me, so I kind of want to see if this is that special one.
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Hey Brad have you seen The Asylums Gacy House movie? curious what you thought about it XD
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Okay, I haven't seen Salo or the Human Centipede. However, I've seen some other Joe D'amato films, along with Umberto Lenzi, Lucio Fulci, etc. I think I was maybe disturbed by Cannibal Holocaust the first time that I watched it, I was disturbed. I remember watching it with friends 2 weeks later, and we were making fun of it. The Man From the Shallow River, Cannibal Ferox, Anthropophagus, Zeder, all of these films were just goofy to us. That was ten years ago, long before the "torture porn" movies emerged in the mainstream.
I have yet to see a movie that bothered me as much a Jack Ketchum's The Girl Next Door. I would never own a copy of this film, but there was definitely some kind of social value in its context. At the time I watched that film, I had a friend who kept talking about how disturbing the rape scenes were in "Dogville." I showed him The Girl Next Door, and he couldn't finish the film. While I wouldn't own a copy of this film, there was a storytelling merit that I could appreciate. It wasn't just the shock value of the film's content, but the realism of the story. Growing up in rural Illinois, I was always hearing horror stories similar to what was depicted in The Girl Next Door. This is something you don't see with movies like Saw or Hostel.
So yeah, I agree with what Brad said. However, if you like watching newborn babies being violated, then perhaps this is your thing. However, I doubt any of these films will have the entertainment of films like Blood Salvage, Daddy's Deadly Darling, Curtains, or Mom.
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Girl Next Door is a film i want to unwatch. It truly bothered me and i try to forget it. Serbian Film was just too far fetched to bother me i guess. i found it ridiculous.
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I really didn't like this movie. I have a lot of trouble watching sexual violence in a film, and this goes WAY beyond that. I myself can't see the symbolism, and if there was any, I don't feel moved by it, I feel ashamed for sitting through the whole thing. It was painful to watch, and I regret doing so.
But of course, great job Brad. Thanks for the review!
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lol, is it more disturbing than Visitor Q? In that movie, a guy rapes a dead woman who defecates all over him.
Wait, no, just read the wikipedia article. Serbian Film is far worse.
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1. You have made a real difference Brad. Based on your plea, I will never see this film for as long as I live. I have so many other movies to watch and generally I agree with your reviews. I'm not even going to read any of the comments on this post just to prevent from learning what the infamous scene is about.
2. You really should claim that Cheap was a diatribe against the Bush Administration. How many hack film makers made millions of dollars and won award by making the same claim about their stupid films. I'm not calling you a hack, I'm just saying cash in when the opportunity arises. Maybe you can claim the Cinema Snob is your statement against George Bush. You'll probably be given a Nobel Prize.
3. You had a really visceral reaction to the Doomed Generation. I have no clue what that movie is but given your response, you clearly have something to say about that film. I really feel like you should elaborate on your feelings about that movie. The mere mention of it on your twitter nearly sent you into a rage. That is too good of material to not capitalize on.
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Damn The Doom Generation! Damn it to HEL!
When I was a kid and my Mom would take me to the video-store with her; she'd never let me get an "expensive" new release to watch, but a 99-cent shelved VHS was fine- I could pick ONE.
So I had to choose very carefully because it would be a week before I could get another. And I rue the day I picked The Doom Generation.
Still to this day I think back to that time with maximum sorrow...
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Just read the wiki on A Serbian Film, I'm never gonna see it, I don't need to see baby rape.
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ok, after Brad's review, i had to see A Serbian Film (of course!). i did everything i had to do for the day for fear that i'd be traumatized into a coma by the movie, then sat down, watched it, and thought it was pretty good. not great, but i haven't the faintest shade of regret over watching it. assuming the "newborn porn" was the one scene that went too far, Korn wrote a song about that very subject, supposedly based on a true story, like 15 years ago, so i've long since dealt with my feelings regarding that particular form of madness. the rest of the film wasn't really disturbing at all (the climax might have been had it not been so infuriatingly predictable from the instant he walked into the "happy family room" or whatever they call it). some really triumphant carnage after that pathetic "reveal", too.
for the record, i'm hardly some desensitized sociopath. plenty of clips from Cinema Snob videos, and even some from Cinemassacre's Monster Madness, have made my skin crawl. A Serbian Film just didn't hit the right spots, and it was well-made and interesting enough that i'm glad Brad inadvertently forced me to watch it. thanks!
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The concept of "that scene" is not something that is unheard of, especially to people well versed in porny fan art or just plain art of fetishes and whatnot. BUT I think there is a huge difference between like an anime style image or a story and a MOVIE that more than one person put an effort into.
I'm sick of people being glad when they are shocked to see something. I don't think shock value should actually be valued, not when it comes to things like this.
To me, a movie is more of an experience than something you could find on the internet (excluding movies that you could find, of course).
I'm sorry people will see this. Even if I had had an interest, this expression of regret from Brad would have convinced me not to see it, ever.
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Damn, Brad. I agree with another poster, I never thought I'd hear you say this about an exploitation movie. You really come across as feeling dirtier for having seen it. The Human Centipede appears to at least have some dark comedy value to it, but this movie is shameless and unforgiving and it isn't entertaining. I won't even see "Hostel," because why the fuck would I want to watch the worst people in the world torture assholes? Just as with this movie: Why would anyone want to watch an ex-porn star be forced to torture/murder women, children, and infants? These types of movies have zero entertainment value for me, and I thank you for telling me NOT to see this movie, Brad. You're doing a great service by saying this movie should be viewed by no one.
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I don't watch a lot of newer horror films (though I LOVE the older stuff like Hitchcock) and I almost NEVER watch exploitation. In fact the only notable exploitation film I'd seen up until recently was Cannibal Holocaust. I was really curious about A Serbian Film though so I watched it last Friday and...to be perfectly honest, I did not find it that bad at all. It was nowhere near as disgusting as people had built it up to be. It's all just hype people. If you're going to watch this just because its disturbing, you are going to be VERY disappointed.
It's actually a pretty good horror film so if you want some good suspense its worth checking out. It's actually a really slow paced film with a lot of exposition and some pretty strong acting. The ending is very dark pretty depressing. Like, I will admit that it's a depressing film in a lot of ways. The story goes in a pretty disheartening direction. It actually reminded me a lot of some older suspense films like Peeping Tom and Straw Dogs (both which are actually really good films). I felt like this was sort of inspired by those kinds of films. It sort of reminded me of a darker sort of version of The Twilight Zone in a way.
I think the reason why a lot of people may find A Serbian Film to be so disturbing is because it's not as much about the visual shock, like most films these days are (Saw, Captivity, The Devil's Rejects), and it's more about the emotional carnage that goes on. Very DePalma-like. Very Hitchcock-like. Very Friedkin-like. I quite enjoyed this film.
Anyway, don't go into it expecting it to be real disgusting and shocking. Honestly? It's not. The scene to which he is referring to, the baby scene, looks so cheap and fake and you don't even see anywhere near as much as a lot of reviewers are leading you to believe. Like, what you are picturing in your head when you hear 'baby rape', is far worse than what this film even shows you. Hell, there's another horror film I watched with my brother and a couple of his friends (I think it was a Korean film) called Dumplings. I think what you do see in that film and the feeling you get from watching it is way worse than what you see in this.
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I like Gregg Araki. Admittedly I've only seen "Mysterious Skin," but that one was enough to get my respect.
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Watched the scene with a hard-on and came buckets.
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Ohay Gacy, fancy seeing you here.
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Cinemasnob is really doing an amazing job, by bringing films from all over the world to our knowledge...
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There are some films that just leave you depressed and wishing you haden't seen them, I found human centipede to be one of them, this one I'm not even gonna watch. Gonna watch some good horror flick with some nuance like Let me inside.
Thanks for the warning about A Serbian film, I wont be checking that crap out.
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What exactly is Necromantic II? I can't find any trace that such a movie exists... I don't want to see 'A Serbian Film', but I HAVE seen 'Cannibal Holocaust', and I want to see if I can find a more disturbing movie than that. But I draw the line at infant rape, so THAT disqualifies ASF.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nekromantik
Link in the page to the sequel "Nekromantik 2"
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I'm not into horror/really violent movies anyway, but I find myself genuinely afraid of the idea of seeing a movie Brad regrets seeing.
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Sorry if may English is a bit vage.
Why compare the film with Nekromantik, then Nacho Cerdá’s “Aftermath” clearly I a mutch more disturbing necrophilia classic =) (acctuly I wivead Nekromantik 1 and 2 on several dates, and it turned oute great moste of the times, N1 och N2 is may absolut favorit movies, and I even have a Jörg Buttgeriet fan page on Facebook to houre his movies).
Anyway, I think that both Andreas Bethmann’s movie "K3: Prison of Hell" and possibly Marcel Walz’s "Le Petite Mort" is a bite more disutrbing then this one. In may oppinion German goremovies is some of the more disturbing on the marcet.
Just love your show, keep up the god work.
Greating from Sweden.
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I, like many I suppose, was intrigued to find out what the "unspeakable scene" was. On checkup on Wikipedia was enough. Be assure that I will never see this film. I have seen some sick and twisted shit in my time and more than one thing I wish to "unsee". But this takes the cake. It's not so much the cruelty depicted but rather the cruelty behind the creation of the film that makes me want to puke. And it's going to be fucking successful too, considering all the hype it receives from being "the wrongest movie ever". I just pray there won't be a sequel where they would inevitably have to top themselves. I'm not saying it isn't possible to top this. I'm saying it is not necessary to go any further than this - or even as far as this.
And as for any symbolism the director tries to cram into this disgusting piece of shit: I know little about the wars in former Yugoslavia but I know that this has fuck-all to do with it. This is just a cheap way to make money off of the world's perverted curiosity.
I felt unclean even reading about the plot, I can't imagine how it must feel to have watched it. And frankly I don't want to know.
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They do NOT show that. Peoples imaginations are far worse. It is certainly NOT shown in the movie. It is at best inferred. It happened off camera so keep that in mind. Again as its played out its so goofy I don't get how anyone can take it seriously. It was obviously an attempt at shock but comes off as silly.
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I don't know what version you saw, but the version I saw did not "hint at" or infer" anything in that scene. It showed it.
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Between Simon's passing and sitting through A Serbian Movie it sounds like you had a rough weekend. At least you got some enjoyment with Jackass. Did you get around to seeing Let Me In? I liked that one. Spoony put up a review for it a couple days ago and he liked it too.
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DAMN.
Something that Brad Jones regrets watching...
I don't think a human being created this film.
Seriously Brad, you look a little scared in the first part.
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He's faking it to get more hits. Man, I'm amazed how you people are unable to spot lame overacting from miles away by now. This is, after all, TGWTG's bitch site. Come on monkey, go make a decent review once in a while.
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You're ignorant.
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Trolls gonna troll.
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"This is the most disturbing film ever made"
Yeah fuck that, thanks for the warning Brad, I'll stay away.
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By the way - is there a Nekromantik review planned anytime soon? I really like Buttgereits stuff, I've even watched the movie version of Captain Berlin VS Hitler when it premiered in a smallish cinema in Gelsenkirchen.
Regardings "A Serbian Film" - I'm so curious now that I will see it anyway.
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I'm glad you liked Jackass 3D, Brad! I've been a fan of Jackass since the first movie came out, and I also saw this on Friday in 3D. I saw it around midday but there was still a good amount of people there, and everyone seemed to enjoy it. And the ending credits with the song and the clips from the CKY videos was so sad.
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I've seen A Serbian Film months ago, I don't think it was supposed to be symbolic. A producer was quoted as saying it but that was just a producer. I think it was made to be fucked up and not much deeper. I've seen a lot of sick movies but A Serbian Film isn't as sick as August Underground's Mordum or AU's Penance. Those movies did shock a lot better, made the most realistic gore effects, actually felt like real found footage, and I think there was more art to making the AU trilogy since there's not much else like it aside from maybe the camcorder scene in Henry: Portrait Of A Serial Killer or Last House on Dead End Street.
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Brad...um well I have never seen the movie uh yet i don't think i will now..ever. Out of curiosity i got a copy of it and told my parents to watch it instead. i told them it was a fantastic movie....my mom threw up twice after watching this and dad wanted to kill me. i was kicked out of the house for 2 and a half weeks and even now after ive been back in the house for about a week now they still are suppppper pissed off...um no more like they want me dead? so yeah i just thought you should know what happened to me with this movie. thanks for...yeah no fuck you assholes the fuckers who made it.. TT_TT
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Alright now i want everyone who has ever seen this movie and want to see this movie. It is NOT as bad as everyone is making it out to be. i can understand the two key things in this film the infant sex scene and the young boy anal sex by his own father can be very disturbing to a lot of people on just a moral background alone but in all honesty? both of those scenes were nothing really to go oh my god about. they were well made sure but disturbing in the since of visual? hell no not even close. This movie disappointed me very much so for not delivering on all the testimonies and reviews that have hailed it as the most disturbing film ever...this movie was shit period. The film Autopsy is about three times more disturbing in the sense of visuals than a Serbian film ever was or will be. To the folks who made this film? You failed. I have dreams more fucked up than this movie. With all that said I'll end with this. Who ever vomited, felt disturbed, horrified, hell anything along those lines. Grow a pair.
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Nope... i want watch A Serbian Film.
I have seen som nasty stuff, BUT.. there is no way in hell that i will watch it. I have heard what has happend in this one and... Nope.. don't want too see that.
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It really pains me to say this, but, I've seen something similar to that scene from A Serbian Film. I read about the scene from the comments, and it reminded me of a certain internet meme. Basically, from a HENTAI manga, guro more specifically, this dude, cut her open, did what he did with the baby, put it in a blender, then poured it on the woman. Yeeeeeeeeah. Just think. Somebody got paid to DRAW this.
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Actually, nobody got paid for that. The hentai you're talking about was written and drawn by just one very very very very sick dude.
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OOooooh, like how some people just make manga and post it online. Yeah, I don't think any company would publish that! I'm not much one to talk though, I read MPD Psycho!
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Well from reading a synopsis from Wikipedia I can pretty much say this film is just shock for the sake of shock, none of it could at all be aimed in anyway to the politics of the Balkans region, and if it was its a very poor way of symbolising it. To take content which is purely to offend and then try and add on a political slant is pure bullshit, its a flimsy cover for the fact you wanted to make something so fucked up and did not want to be condemned by your creation, so hide it behind pretentious ideas of symbolism of society or politics or anything else. Full well knowing that critics will then defend the abomination.
Well I can safely say I'm not going to be drawn into this piece of shit film. Feel better Brad you have saved me from not being able to unsee a terrible film.
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quote from a review of A Serbian Film:
"... It's R rated from the looks of it. More horror film than porn... Somewhat difficult to masturbate to."
I'm in awe of this person.
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Haven't seen A Serbian Film not really interested. Im not turned off by the violence or anything like that just seems boring. If u want to see some good movies from Serbia (im Serbian) Check out Lepo Selo Lepo Gore (Pretty Flame Pretty Village), Podrum (Basement or Underground), and Turneja (The Tour). Those are great movies. I would love to see CinemaSnob review movies from my country it would be a trip.
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I've seen a lot of exploitation films, but Cannibal Holocaust is the movie I "regret seeing," so if this one is worse, than count me out.
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This movie, A Serbian Film, is as horrible as Brad says. I went and watched it as soon as he said "so bad he can't unsee that particular scene." I was pretty thrown by the "newborn porn" scene, but the end of film disturbed me a hell of a lot more than the baby rape. The big reveal actually made me stop the move and go walk around outside for a few minutes before finishing the last 10 minutes. It's so bad, I do, as well, wish to unsee this movie.
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Honestly, your review of A Serbian Film sounded like viral marketing more than anything else, helping to build up this reputation of "more fucked up movie ever" that movies like this and Human Centipede are after. I just watched it, and it was nice, but there was nothing too shocking in it, nor it was gross or nasty - this is a horror, not a gore flick, so the worst parts (like yanking out teeth) are not shown. It is a movie about cruel, evil people, closer to "8MM" or "The devil rejects" than, say, "Naked Blood".
Newborn porn is not new. Parents forced to rape their children is not new. Maybe you are planning to have children yourself and so it affected you more, I don't know, but that objection reminds me of the reviewers who despised Kickass because it showed a young girl slaughtering people.
The alternative is that you liked it so much that you made this video telling people not to watch it, which of course is a fail-proof way of getting people rushing to see it. If that's the case, thank you. I don't follow film festivals, so I wouldn't have heard about it if not for you.
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Oooor perhaps some things just don't appeal to everyone? Just because Brad wasn't singing its praises doesn't mean he was craftily endorsing it - could it be that he actually didn't like the content, perhaps? Newborn-porn may have been around for a while but be that as it may, some people, planning to have children or not, just don't want to sit through a scene like that - just because it's not new doesn't make it any more easier to watch. Wanting to have kids has nothing to do with it.
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After seeing A Serbian Film I was really disappointing, as sick as that sounds.I was expecting the most disturbing film ever. After seeing this movie, all I had to say was "that's it?"
I know, I was solely watching this film for the sake of just shock value, and I built it up so much in my head that only if this was real it would match my expectations. But in reality, I just kinda said whatever afterward.
To me the most disturbing film ever is An American Crime. To this day that's the only film I can honestly say that made me feel "disturbed." But do I regret seeing it? No, not at all. The silver-lining out of it is I can tell people what is the most disturbing film, in my opinion. (Also it's well acted, very well shot, and it's based off of a true story)
I can see people getting disturbed by this film, I really do, but the things in this movie are pretty tame to me (excluding the infant-raping scene, that was just... bad). I've seen far worse, and I'm surprised Brad would even say what he said about this film.
But did I enjoy this film? The first act was actually pretty cool. Not so much the second and third.
One small note though. I really don't get why Brad would say "Don't Watch this film. It's the most disturbing thing I've ever seen." When he knows full well people will want to see it. I was going to watch the Human Centipede until Brad's review. I wanted a disturbing shocking movie, and he said it really wasn't. If he just said that this movie was "okay" or "nothing special" I'd probably have never sought it out.
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While i agree with your idea in concept, my argument is that it was soo GOOFY in Serbian film that I fail to see how anyone was disturbed. its all off camera and the sounds were just silly. That combined with the WAY over the top director made it laughable instead of traumatic. I am glad for this because had it been serious I would have stopped the movie.
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How to make this movie instantly better.
At the end, yell "The Aristocrats!!"
Thank you.
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I think I would probably have a harder time watching shit like "Cannibal Holocaust" or "Cannibal Ferox" than "The Girl Next Door" or "A Serbian Film", the rational being that nothing in the latter films is actually real. Granted,
Girl Next Door" was based on a true story, but at no point is anyone actually raped or tortured on camera. With the cannibal movies, there's usually at least one scene of animal cruelty, which bothers me because it's actually real, not staged.
At least you can't go wrong with a Jackass movie.
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"At least you can't go wrong with a Jackass movie."
Christ if there's anything else you've stated that makes me hope beyond hope that you never ever breed, it's that.
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I was in a very nihilistic mood when I watched A Serbian Film, my father died recently and I guess I wanted something to indulge my bad mood, I doubt I'd have watched under any other circumstances. It is not a good film. The last 40 minutes are basically all one violent rape scene after another, but there is no connection to the characters given, rendering it meaningless, and the over acting by the director of the film within a film renders it comical. I thought the acing was bad to the extent it was untentionally funny. I did honestly laugh at it, which was presumably not the intended response. If I was watching it not knowing what was going to happen it might have had more impact I suppose.
The infamous scene sounds a lot worse written down than on screen in the film; it is clearly a CGI 'baby' and the scene features the wild over acting as mentioned above.
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I apologize for being disgusted by "newborn porn." If some of you can sit through baby rape, that's your thing; but it's something I didn't want to see. Call me crazy.
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I think you are reading into the comments wrong. I certainly did not sit through nor enjoy "baby Rae". I sat through a poorly rendered attempt at shock. I condemn the movie for that especially because it added nothing to the movie and actually derailed it so far as to prevent the movie from being possibly good. I only said I did not understand why it was so shocking because it was poorly done.
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CRAZY!!!
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I was slightly disappointed with "A Serbian Film" after your review. I was expecting it to be much more explicit. The 'babyrape' scene, to me was silly because the baby looked like Quato from Total Recall. Then, when the director shouted "NEWBORN PORN" I actually laughed.
I actually kind of enjoyed the first half, with the bizarre set pieces and the insane director. It almost was working for me as a satire *about* pretentious art film. The baby rape, though incredibly tasteless showed just how far the director was willing to go for the sake of "art".
Overall, I enjoyed it in the way that one enjoys a graphic, gruesome horror movie. Then again, I enjoyed other 'torture porn' movies such as Martyrs and Jack Kirby's The Girl Next Door, so take that as you will.
Lastly, if you want something worse, go read Waita Ugiza's Mai-Chan's Daily Life.
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It's Jack Ketchum's The Girl Next Door dude. Ketchum was the author of the novel.
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you know... sometimes i wish my curiosity wouldn't get the better of me... i just a few mins ago watched the damned movie. I so fucking wish i didn't watch it.. though some of the scenes didn't bother me.. but the "newborn porn" scene and the finale just... ugh... good review though. wish i could learn how to listen and not let my curiosity get the better of me... it leads me into things i don't want to see so it seems.
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what's funny is you specifically say "now that I've labeled it as so disturbing all of you are going to go see it now...just don't" and so...well...I had to watch it...just HAD to. I have to admit, I don't generally get bothered by movies but this one is sort of stuck in my head. Unbelievably disturbing...possibly the only time in movie history I've actually needed to pause the movie for a second...watching the film from start to finish is sort of like running a marathon, you have to keep repeating in your head "ok, only 25 more minutes to go...you'll make it man"
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I'm a Serb and I hate this movie. Mostly because it was made by one of our own. Also, about government thing... yes we had the worst times in the 90's, and yes, it was honorable, and yes it was painful, and yes child porn and ending means that someone raped us from birth till death... But, you don't show it as a painful metaphor that is made (as Brad says) for shock value. You just don't, and don't think of us as monster, one of writers has a review show with shocking, most disturbed, sickest films on one Serbians televisions. So now you know where the sickness came... My 2 cents.
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As I rewatched the reviews today one thought got a sick smile on my face: "A Serbian Film 3D", wow, THAT would've been... well, "in your face" in all sorts of different ways. *lol*
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It was ok, I give it 6/10. Nothing too special.
I laughed at the end.
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Well Brad condemns an actual film, and praises the trash piece that's only entertaining if you're a mental throwback. Brad's credibility as a film critic now at -500.
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Okay, i agree with you 100% about this scene. I have seen some of the most disturbing movies out there. (if you want to know some, August Undergrounds's Mordum, Head, Jack Ketchum's Girl Next Door and many, many more.) And i mean, don't watch this movie. I really do regret watching this movie. I mean if i knew this part was in this movie i would have not watched it. The part is everything you have every seen One Upped, wait not one upped 1000 Upped because you have never seen something this morbid or wrong in my life. And to be honest im under 18 so that makes it even worse. But Brad i want you to stress it more to not watch this movie because they will resent the day they watched it.
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Fuck you Brad- you're a pussy if you couldn't sit through this film. It's a fucking masterpiece! Those of you out there who have a working brain need to see this film. Brad is a fucking moron to praise retarded shit like Jackass.
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I was kind of let down by you Brad, seriously it's fucked up shit. But it COULD happend (there is cp rings doing fucked up shit in the old east block and Russia) and you have to know Serbian history to see what it criticizes. I think as a snob you would like this kind of stuff. I don't want to even see human centipede or Saw because it shows torture but this also questions the male sexuality as someone said earlier.
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You do know that Brad is acting when he plays the Snob, right?
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haha, thanks for reading my tweet, i guess. the comment that it could have used more rape was me being sarcastic btw
as you've pointed out, the whole movie is purely made for shock value.
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I agree with you completely Brad, this is just disgusting and with the whole excuse of the ""Message"" in this Movie: "PAH,.." idiotic,You can say a Captain Crunch commercial got a subtile Masssage for Worldpeace,when you are THAT Stupid
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please,puh-lease if you going to make a shitty gory shock film make a shitty gory shock film,if you want to make a movie criticizing your government do it.Don't make a gore film then claim it has any value other then to shock.Have the balls to say it means nothing.By the way for those curious about that one scene,that haven't seen the movie it's' newborn porn'.(shudder)
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this is the first time i've actually sat down and asked myself have i gone to far.this movie is just sitting in my collection looking at me and i'm arguing the point of curiosity vs good taste,still haven't watched it,but by the things that i've heard the only way to out gross it is a real snuff film.. has cinema really falling this far to add a scene like new born porn.that 1 scene is whats putting me of this movie,1 fucking scene that makes you question the scriptwriters,producers director and every single persons integrity.august underground is at the moment the most vile piece of garbage i've seen so far and the two fucking sequels where pointless rewrites in my opinion,now gonna have to brave this and see if it can knock au of it's pedistil.....wish me luck
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First off, if you have a copy of I spit on your grave, Review the fucking thing. secondly, if liking Doom Generation makes me an asshole, I will wear that title with pride.
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I made the mistake of watching this despite your warnings, Brad. This film is disturbing in two ways. The first one being that it's obviously too over the top, too wrong, too disturbing. The second being that there is a good concept being wasted. Had the director cut down on the gratuitous and shock-effect-only gore, cut that GODDAMN scene you wouldn't talk about (for good reason too), cut the last few seconds and had let it end on the fitting point, and had not tried to make this into a parable of Serbian life and oppression but rather a film about the growing depravity and effects of hardcore pornography, this could have been a good film with a solid message. As you said, this is well-made from a technical standpoint but I think it's very badly made from a design standpoint. This could have been a film akin to "8MM" but instead went the cheap road. It's sad, really
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Watch movie Rane or Wounds.Wish to hear what you think about that.And,I'm from Serbia and i decided long before I wont watch this s**t.Hope I hear review for Rane.Greets (btw,just found this site, its great!)
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Huh, the baby bit just reminds me of Waita Uziga's "Mai-Chan's Daily Life".
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Ah, and someone already mentioned that. Yes, I agree, this sounds like a live-action version of that manga. Seriously, Uziga can write some really fucked up stuff.
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I was disturbed reading the wikipedia article on the Poughkeepsie Tapes, pretty sick shit there, i'm definately not watching that film, just as i am not watching a Serbian Film. The film makers are entitled to make their film, but i don't want to watch it and to be this does seem to explotation with a political message tacked on, there are better film that deal with the wars in Serbia, Kosovo, Slobodan Milosovich's atrocities whatever better than this.
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I fucking love you Brad for actually having the balls to call bullshit on the so-called messages, symbolism and political statements in these horrid piece of shit "films" (I really hate calling these films because there are just that fucking bad and they don't respectfully deserve to be called films). It's really comical how any director who made a god-awful movie who steps up and defend their abomination by claiming it has inner meaning and that their creation is very artistic, althrough it was orginally created for shock value. How pathetic of a human being are you to fucking defend this kind of shit? They are too chicken-shit to have a spine and just admit the truth that their movie is made for shock value. The director and producer who made A Serian Film are a bunch of talentless hacks who don't have any creativity and digity whats so ever. This movie is shock for the sake of shock.
Also, there are assholes on the internet saying that The Human Centipede is a allegory for "the failure of Capitalism". WTF?!
And another thing: I'm sick and tired of assholes calling other people "pruds" just because they refused to watch torture porn and gross shit on the internet. Seriously, grow the fuck up. Not everyone has the same tastes as you do and if they don't want to watch it, they don't have to.
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Dude just for that last point I love you. I am a huge fan of horror, exploitation and other things that most people consider tasteless but I refuse to watch this film purely because it sounds completely void of any value. Even films like Visitor Q which I would argue despite not being hugely graphic was still disturbing as hell had merit to it and yes did have a moral behind it even if it was very hard to find.
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Two things here. One - I totally agree that the infamous scene is too much, and in my eyes, it's a shame because it will stop people watching what is an excellently made, well acted film.
Two - on the flip side, it's very easy for people sat in western countries that excercise free speech to denounce the obvious political statements here as 'bullshit' and say 'you should just make a film about the government'. Try living in a country like Serbia. It's not as easy as you suggest.
Good review, and I agree with much of it, but to denounce the political message because it offends you destroys your credibility IMO.
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as disturbing as this film might be it is only a movie it is only people pretending a movie could never bring me to the point of wishing to un-see it. Now something like 3 guys 1 hammer that is something you do not want to see this is just goofy actors playing dress up.
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Your tolerance for exploitation is much higher than mine - so you telling me not to see Serbian Film is the best motivation to not see it.
Barely related note: AMC has done a crappy job of taking over old Kerasotes theatres. I miss my old theatres.
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I have been looking for a movie so shocking that you actually regret watching it. And seriously, I started doubting myself when watching this review. I watched Anthichrist and Hostel, also "The Ring" since I heard it was gonna be bad as hell, The Ring was pathetic, not worth mentioning in any category while Hostel and Anthichrist had their share of violence that I found a little disturbing. I will decide later on whether I'll watch it or not, but for now I'm wondering, how can I get ahold of it?
Tried to find it's page on IMdb but found nothing there so couldn't see the realese date.
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I know this is gonna be REALLY obnoxious, but...I remember you mentioning a film called "unspeakable" in which...you know.
Is that more fucked up than a Serbian Film?
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So I finally got around seeing it (and recorded my running comments on it to boot) in full and to be honest...it was okay.
Sure, there was some pretty gross moments in the film, but it suffered what I like to call "artificial grime" that the Saw and Hostel films
The baby scene, while shocking and a bit gross, was not the scene I found to be the absolute nastiest (I still stand by that its a bit on the ridiculous side.) That honor goes to the toothless scene. Honorable mention to the shots of wiener cutting and bloody urination.
However, as a whole, its a competently made piece of overt shlock with some good acting, a kick-ass score and some fine cinematography and set pieces that unfortunately tries way too hard to be soul-deadening horrific and ends up being a bit on the outrageous, near cartoonish side of the freak-out spectrum (same goes for The Human Centipede, which is a heck lot more mainstream than this, though)
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oh and by the way, I personally don't regret seeing this, because after all, I have the honor of being able to sit through it without trouble.
Like I said elsewhere, at least its not meant to be a piece of erotica/jerk-off material, which if it was...I would've hated it a lot more (The less said about that piece of garbage "Moral Hazard", which I DO retret seeing, the better)
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Jackass 3D IS all in 3D, just because things coming at you doesn't mean it's not in 3D.
In fact, I hate that tacky shit when the things come at you, it's about the Depth of Field and perspective, it looks far better.
I often did take my glasses off and it's a lot better in 3D, obviously without it looks a lot flatter and "boring", it'd be fine if there wasn't the choice of 3D but having it looked far better.
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Thank you Snob, i really won´t see this shit. I mean why the fuck should watch a movie just to regret watching it. Other might do that and i think if they like this thing it is there problem but me oh no.
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After watching this, I realized that the film has major artistic merit. Where do you draw the line with this kind of thing at what point do you say "ok, this repugnant shit is ok and this repugnant shit is NOT ok". All of it is repugnant, the only difference is at what point do you become desensitized to it. De Sade's book was all about blurring this social condition of prescribed morality by building up the wrong through narrative structure. I think Brad's review quite directly shows modern (American) society's tolerance brackets and his confusion and inability to pinpoint what distinguishes this film and other torture porn is a good example of it.
A Serbian Film is the most disturbing piece of cinema I've ever seen and I'm glad I watched it but will never watch it again. Having said that, it is an art film because it is art that is disquieting and thought provoking; it made me realize the purpose of these kinds of films; that is to pinpoint our (modern society's) obsession with violence and sex (and their unsettling combinations) to realize that it is all equally bad and horrendous- these acts portrayed in the film undoubtedly took place during Bosnian genocide (the precursor to most of the grotesque, almost unspeakable underpinnings of this film) - and to turn away from some forms of violence and not others is, in my opinion to miss the whole point of impact of THAT SCENE (as well as others). This "message" i think (and this is purely my speculation) is to readdress violence like we've never looked at it before: violence against children and women, horrendous acts that we are capable of and i am ashamed of humanity for allowing these to occur, I am ashamed of these primal urges that still seem to be the driving force behind our society; genocide is only a word, THAT SCENE is not- it speaks better than any word of horrible, dark, indescribable things we are capable of. I think if you've seen this film and you have learnt something about yourself through watching it like I have then it was worth it.
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I watched A Serbian Film with my girlfriend and of course, she points out the main character looked like Simon Pegg. After that, no matter what got thrown at us, we had the giggles throughout the whole film. Though there were a couple of scenes where I did go WTF?! And although it is genuinely disturbing, I couldn't honestly take it seriously. It's sooooo over-the-top that, although I'll give the makers the benefit of the doubt and say they were probably sincere in making it, the exteme levels of nastiness actually diluted whatever point they were trying to make because the horror just gets in the way. I've seen the uncut version and the UK BBFC approved version, which the makers railed against because, they claimed, the cuts changed the context of the movie but really, they don't (the UK 18 version would still get an NC-17 in the US, no question). Would I advise people not to watch it? Depends on the person. Did I like it? I have absolutely no idea.
Incidently, I made a similar joke about it being a first date movie to a friend. It turned out, she'd already made a similar error and took a guy to see Antichrist. Apparently the realationship isn't progressing well.
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With this and Space Odyssey, I have officially decided that "art" should only be saved for when Cameron is watching the pointillism picture in "Ferris Bueller".
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You know, I am not a prude when it come to horror. I laugh at things like Friday The 13th. I have no real problem watching anyhting shown in Saw, Human Centipede, or Caligula. And there was a moment in this review, where I paused the review and found this movie. And I was about eight second from pressing play on A Serbian Film.
Then it really sunk in that YOU had said it was the most disgusting thing ever filmed. Caligula is the greatest film of all time, and this is utterly disturbing to you. And you know, if anyone else said that, I would go ahead and watch. But not Brad Jones. Nope, you I decided to listen to.
I will never know what I have missed in not watching A Serbian Film. And I will probably be forever glad of it, so thanks, you convinced me.
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I really don't understand why everytime someone doesn't like a work of art, he must say that it doesn't mean anything and it's only shit.
I don't like abstract art. I can watch an entire gallery of Rotkho's paintings for days without seeing nothing more than colored squared shapes that doesn't mean anything to me. But this doesn't mean that Rothko is not an artist and that his paintings are just pretentious shit. And maybe it's not my fault either. I just miss "something" that other people, that like Rotkho works, have.
Ten years ago I met a serbian man: he fought in the Yugoslav Wars and he told me that he saw and did things that he can't never forget. I didn't ask him details but everyone of us can read what happened during those years: genocides, ethnic cleansings... things that make me sick just to think about. So, yeah, I'm really happy that I can't undestand A Serbian Movie! Because I think, maybe, that man I met ten years ago can.
If this movie was made by someone that never directly saw any kind of violence at all, I could understand the criticism. But, come on: this movie was made by someone that lived a civil war, someone that saw his own country shatters and maybe was even a soldier in that war. And not only this: serbians were the invaders! This is not even a movie made by a victim but by an executioner. Think about it.
If Eli Roth wants me to feel dirty and unclean I laugh at him. If a man that grew up surrounded by atrocities wants me to puke my brain out to feel one time just like he felt every single day of his life for a long time, I take it.
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Say, there's something wrong with the "Jackass 3D" video. Every time I try to play it, it just says, "Sorry, we're unable to play this episode."
PS. Thanks for the warning about "A Serbian Film"! I've since found out about the scene you were talking about, and that's all I need to know! If, as you've said elsewhere, the version you saw is completely uncensored, I don't blame you for wishing you could unsee it! I mean, Jesus!
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Hi!
Do you not think about the environment? Let's work on renewable energy?
What can you offer in terms of advertising?
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You are so right about the "Doom Generation" and its fans. I had a friend freshman year in high school that loved this movie and force me to watch it. Let's just say that she isn't my friend anymore...
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I've just downloaded 'A Serbian Film' (living in England I hear it's the only way to get the uncut version) and like I do with some of the movies I download before I watch it whole(not entirely sure why I do that) I was just flicking through, and I don't know, maybe it's because I was just flicking that I hadn't been able to get absorbed into it(though with Subtitles I'll probably be pausing it every time someone speaks anyway so I can read the fucking things), but I wasn't phased by it at all.
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In Memory of Ryan Dunn
Rest In Piece, Dude.
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Niku Daruma is way more fucked up then Serbian film
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I have to say, while A Serbian Film is disgusting and wrong, there is something that, atleast to me, is worse, and that is the infamous "3 guys 1 hammer" video, and that's only because the video is real, and not a work of fiction like the movie.
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I watched 'A Serbian Film' after hearing so much about this, and I will say that this was a really traumatic experience for me!!! I am a woman, and I watched this with my other half and we both were disgusted by that vile, unnecessary baby rape scene which I believe is something that unscupulous porn makers are making in REALITY, I am sad to state. We both wanted to see what all the fuss was about, and I really wish I never watched it but I wanted to kill that Bastard who raped the baby and I was in tears by seeing the baby crying and flawing her little arms in self-defence. Another thing that disturbed me with that scene was the mother of the child who had a horrible half smile and I shudder to think what would of happened if that inhuman monster did not rape and murder her from the WOMB!!! No watching the film does not make one a peadophile because POLICE look at certain videos to lay down justice to the wrongdoers.
As for the maker trying to justify all that scene, what I will say is that 'I do not believe any of your crap at all and you have SHAMED the nation of Serbia!'. The film, in some respects is very well acted, well made but that scene was something that traumatised me for life and I could not sleep afterwards. If only I could of got into that scene and shot that bald bastard before the birth and took the baby away from that prostitute mother!
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