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11/6/2010 3:37 AM
Masamune wrote:
did not know this movie existed. release date september 11th? Japan? i might just download this so Brody wont be the only one who doesnt get paid ;D Reply to this
11/6/2010 3:56 AMChase357 wrote:
I almost rented this! Damn, I will go back and give it a shot to see Argento back in form and Brody's character sounds intriguing. Reply to this
11/6/2010 4:08 AMChase357 wrote:
Also, what the fuck is with the Toxic Avenger remake? Why would they dream of pulling in cash through marketing it to kids. Kids aren't going to care about a superhero that's going to go over their heads. What merchandising whores. Troma should be marketing a violent remake for fans and for college age viewers. Make it a new cult classic like the original, make it talked about all over the internet like the original. Fuck it, I'm going to watch the Unrated Director's Cut DVD with the full "Head Crushing" scene. Reply to this
11/7/2010 12:04 AM
Redliph wrote:
I am gonna have to disagree with you there, friend. I would hate to see them remake a violent Toxic Avenger because the original was perfect as is. What would they change? Probably just muck it up with computer graphics. Those special effects were classics, man!
That said, marketing to kids isn't so bad. My first experience with Troma and Toxie was with an old cartoon show that nobody I know remembers but me. Toxic Avenger teamed up with some pilot with a giant nose and a wheel for a foot and some girl with an accordian. There was another character too but damned if I can remember, as young as I was watching it. Still, it was pretty great.
Kids are smarter than most grown up people give em credit for. Why do you think people remember Animaniacs and Freakazoid so fondly? Shows that weren't insulting our intelligence. Same thing with Avatar the Airbender today, I reckon. Reply to this
11/9/2010 3:49 AM
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For myself, the only good Toxie movie is the first one. There is a germ of a good movie in Part 2 and 3 that could probably be salvaged with some editing to combine them back into a single movie, though, despite the horrible make-up.
For all the hype and excitement surrounding Toxie 4 a dozen years ago, it was the chance of the franchise to do right by the series, get it back on track, reinvigorate it and redeem it, but it fails by not only being a joyless and tedious movie, but it also goes right back to repeating the same mistakes from Toxie 2/3 that didn't work the first time, either. The only bit I think I really liked from Toxie 4, the BEST part of the movie, was the callback to Toxie 1 at the end. For the first and only time in the last 90 minutes did it actually feel like a real Toxie movie.
Toxie is Troma's flagship character, but they've not done him any favors for the last 20 or so years. A PG-13 film is NOT the way to go with the character, but neither is what Troma has historically shown themselves doing with the character. It's almost a blessing that they're at least aware enough of Toxie's value as an icon to have kept from killing him off with overexposure in unwatchable films. Reply to this
11/6/2010 5:04 AM
Rockabilly Dolphinman wrote:
I love Argento, but I agree that 'Susperia' was overrated. Ever see 'The Stendhal Syndrome?' Now that one's going to be a classic (I won't say "instand classic" as that sounds like an oxymoron). TSS is actually available through Troma team video and I recommend checking it out.
Speaking of Troma; the main reason I'm not looking forward to the Toxic remake is the fact that's it's being made by at least two of the geniuses behind the 1998 'Lost In Space' movie. Now, why wouldn't I trust them with rehandling older material???? Reply to this
11/8/2010 10:34 PM
SanguineSymphony wrote:
Stendhal is already 15 years old... I don't think its going to attain any Classic status. Also the version of the movie to buy is Blue Underground's DVD since the proper aspect ratio is maintained. Reply to this
11/9/2010 5:24 PM
Rockabilly Dolphilnman wrote:
Oh yes, that's true. Well, it's still a good movie. See it now! NOW I SAY! Reply to this
11/6/2010 7:40 AMThe King of Thessaly wrote:
Hmmm... How does one PG-13 masturbation to run-over-little-boy-head-Polaroids??? Rather still: how does one PG-13 driving over a little boy's head?!? Heheheh, I saw that again for the first time in many years at a special midnight showing with Lloyd Kaufman and it was like a watermelon with a latex mask on... Classic. Reply to this
11/6/2010 11:17 AM
Lotica wrote:
I haven't actually seen this one yet, might have to check it out soon. I only love Suspiria for the soundtrack honestly. I could never get through it on separate occassions. Plus Adrian Brody starring in the film seemed to give it some appeal, having an well-known actor in a not as well known film.
And going back on Fulci's work, I love New York Ripper. I think it's actually Fulci's best film honestly. I don't know why, I just love the style of that film plus the soundtrack is great. And I love his other film, Voices from Beyond. The 1991 film of his. If you want a copy of that Brad, I'll get you a downloadable copy sometime soon. It will be worth seeing a later Fulci film that is actually good. Yeah, me and you can get along with the Fulci stuff honestly. Haha. Reply to this
11/6/2010 11:47 AMDaniel Kepley wrote:
First off, great review and thanks for not spoiling/reiterating the other reviews; I will Netflix this one since I do enjoy some Argento. (I do agree that DEEP RED is awesome, and SUSPIRIA happens to be my second all-time favorite horror movie, after THE EVIL DEAD.) And I agree that if one is to make a PG-13 remake of THE TOXIC AVENGER, it would be based on the TOXIC CRUSADERS cartoon series (I used to collect the action figures of that show BTW). I can't wait to see this new thing you're putting up on Monday! Reply to this
11/6/2010 12:20 PM
Pierangelo Tendas wrote:
And I bet you don't even know why the genre is called that... Generally, the term "giallo" (literally translated with "yellow") is used worldwide to indicate typically Italian-produced sleazy thriller movies. In ITALY, the term generally indicates the mystery movies. The term was born because, when the first ever chain of mystery novels was published in Italy (in the 1920s, by the MONDADORI Publishing House, based in Milan), all those novels had yellow hardcovers. Reply to this
11/6/2010 1:43 PM
AnotherCafeJava wrote:
TEAM FULCI, FUCK YEAH! I like Argento, but as he's been going along, his movies have been getting worse. The Card Player, oy gevald! Reply to this
11/6/2010 4:08 PML.T. Quinn wrote:
Why does everyone hate "Mother of Tears?" See, I disagree about the Argento movies. I'm not a big fan of Fulci or Argento, but I liked Suspiria and Mother of Tears (haven't seen Inferno all the way through). But I didn't like Deep Red, Tenebre, or the Bird With The Crystal Plumage. But I like Trauma and the Stendhal Syndrom. But I have always thought Argento was hit or miss, just like Wes Craven. Makes a few good movies, makes some shitty movies. Reply to this
11/6/2010 4:22 PM
JBRBBT wrote:
It always cracks me up when these stuck up actors come along and try to get films they didn't like being in pulled from shelves all due to their selfish egos. Reply to this
11/6/2010 11:51 PM
Osgeld wrote:
I dont know about you, but I would not take kindly to working and not getting paid
guess that makes me stuck up with an ego problem, I should go into work and demand they stop paying me on Monday! Reply to this
11/6/2010 6:01 PM
James Auburn wrote:
Thought I'd recommend one of the weirdest, and certainly one of the best-titled, giallos, if you can find a copy:
"La Morte Ha Fatto L'uovo" (aka "Death Laid An Egg") (1968)
Giallo-meets-surrealism: some of Italy's most well-known stars, pretentious psychedelic editing, an ear-splitting avant-garde soundtrack, a hooker-knifing sleazeball, and a chicken farm that breeds headless chickens. Definitely a "WTF...?" classic.
11/6/2010 6:22 PMMartialHorror wrote:
NOOOOO! I WANTED TO DO THIS FIRST! lol. Well, at least you've given me hope for this movie.
New York Ripper is pretty cool(although I'd argue that it's more of a slasher than a giallo). Reply to this
11/6/2010 6:24 PM
Frederik wrote:
Good review, Brad. I personally think that Cat O'nine Tails is the Best Argento movie. Saw it like 15 times, really like Karl Malden in it. Reply to this
11/6/2010 6:57 PM
hihowareyou wrote:
just watched it, pretty much agree with you, but what was the huge twist with the killer? i guess i missed it, because i didn't see a huge spoiler twist at the end Reply to this
11/6/2010 8:46 PM
Lair wrote:
Hah, you can't fool me, Brad. I saw the cut when you were trying to remember the name of the other movie. You had to look it up? Reply to this
11/7/2010 12:07 AMBrad wrote:
lol I know that's what it looks like, but I got interrupted by a very persistent Lloyd. Had to reshoot a portion of the review because of background meowing. Reply to this
11/6/2010 10:10 PM
phantomcreeps wrote:
Brad, just wanted to let you know, that your videos are great. I had a really bad day, had to call 911 because my roomate was not responding. That's not the point, but you shined light on my dark day with this review, believe it or not. Take care you smart motherfucker. Reply to this
11/7/2010 12:58 AMBoredlizzie wrote:
Many thanks for the Dario Argento review!! I love Argento & it's great to hear your opinion. I'll have to give "Giallo" a look, I've been wary of his later stuff. Recently saw "Tenebrae," and it has some unusual stuff for Argento: a tight, coherent plot and John Saxon in a swanky-ass hat! Reply to this
11/7/2010 1:57 AMJenn wrote:
I'm going to have to watch this one... I love the strange, otherworldly feel of giallo movies. An they always have these beautiful scores. My favorite Argento movie (which is a weird one to like so much), "Phenomena," had a bit more of the cop drama included with Patrick Bauchau's character (and Donald Pleasence to an extent). I actually like it more than "Suspiria." "Phenomena" actually managed to surprise me—which, when considering how many horror/cop movies I've seen, is pretty damn impressive. So, as a fan of the giallo genre (and those great Spaghetti Westerns like Tonino Valerii's "My Name is Nobody") I have to watch this new Argento flick. Reply to this
11/8/2010 2:41 PM
Chris C. wrote:
Team Fulci ftw. Just saw "The New York Ripper" recently and I dug it, but I will always think "Don't Torture a Duckling" is Fulci's giallo masterpiece. Reply to this
11/8/2010 10:20 PM
SanguineSymphony wrote:
Argento still hasn't done anything as bad as Manhattan Baby, Sweet House of Horrors, The Black Cat, or Sodom's Ghost and many other Fulci flicks... Reply to this
11/11/2010 11:23 PM
PlasticLion wrote:
Damn it now I need to watch Demons again. I guess all the new stuff on your site will just have to wait. I'm sorry I just haven't seen a random crashing helicopter in a long time. And "She became a demon. A instrument of Evil!" is the best line in a horror movie ever.
I guess I would say "Team Argento!" at this point but apparently he's the unloved gay shirtless werewolf around these parts. Reply to this
11/27/2010 12:21 PM
Sean K wrote:
Thanks for the solid review. We tried to make a fun piece of eurosleeze and nothing more. The casting of the killer was where we tried to make the film a meta-giallo... the mystery isn't about who the killer is as much as who is playing the killer.
And for the record, we really wanted the film to end it with that black screen. Reply to this
11/28/2010 2:06 AMmiere de albine ieftina wrote:
The article is very interesting, but some issues still remained less affected. I hope that a future article and will reveal things behind the scenes, things that show us the true face of this. Reply to this
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It's late lol =) And I had been laying on the couch.
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How the hell do you get away with NOT paying a major Hollywood actor ??
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did not know this movie existed. release date september 11th? Japan? i might just download this so Brody wont be the only one who doesnt get paid ;D
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I almost rented this! Damn, I will go back and give it a shot to see Argento back in form and Brody's character sounds intriguing.
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Also, what the fuck is with the Toxic Avenger remake? Why would they dream of pulling in cash through marketing it to kids. Kids aren't going to care about a superhero that's going to go over their heads. What merchandising whores. Troma should be marketing a violent remake for fans and for college age viewers. Make it a new cult classic like the original, make it talked about all over the internet like the original. Fuck it, I'm going to watch the Unrated Director's Cut DVD with the full "Head Crushing" scene.
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I am gonna have to disagree with you there, friend. I would hate to see them remake a violent Toxic Avenger because the original was perfect as is. What would they change? Probably just muck it up with computer graphics. Those special effects were classics, man!
That said, marketing to kids isn't so bad. My first experience with Troma and Toxie was with an old cartoon show that nobody I know remembers but me. Toxic Avenger teamed up with some pilot with a giant nose and a wheel for a foot and some girl with an accordian. There was another character too but damned if I can remember, as young as I was watching it. Still, it was pretty great.
Kids are smarter than most grown up people give em credit for. Why do you think people remember Animaniacs and Freakazoid so fondly? Shows that weren't insulting our intelligence. Same thing with Avatar the Airbender today, I reckon.
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For myself, the only good Toxie movie is the first one. There is a germ of a good movie in Part 2 and 3 that could probably be salvaged with some editing to combine them back into a single movie, though, despite the horrible make-up.
For all the hype and excitement surrounding Toxie 4 a dozen years ago, it was the chance of the franchise to do right by the series, get it back on track, reinvigorate it and redeem it, but it fails by not only being a joyless and tedious movie, but it also goes right back to repeating the same mistakes from Toxie 2/3 that didn't work the first time, either. The only bit I think I really liked from Toxie 4, the BEST part of the movie, was the callback to Toxie 1 at the end. For the first and only time in the last 90 minutes did it actually feel like a real Toxie movie.
Toxie is Troma's flagship character, but they've not done him any favors for the last 20 or so years. A PG-13 film is NOT the way to go with the character, but neither is what Troma has historically shown themselves doing with the character. It's almost a blessing that they're at least aware enough of Toxie's value as an icon to have kept from killing him off with overexposure in unwatchable films.
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I love Argento, but I agree that 'Susperia' was overrated. Ever see 'The Stendhal Syndrome?' Now that one's going to be a classic (I won't say "instand classic" as that sounds like an oxymoron). TSS is actually available through Troma team video and I recommend checking it out.
Speaking of Troma; the main reason I'm not looking forward to the Toxic remake is the fact that's it's being made by at least two of the geniuses behind the 1998 'Lost In Space' movie. Now, why wouldn't I trust them with rehandling older material????
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Stendhal is already 15 years old... I don't think its going to attain any Classic status. Also the version of the movie to buy is Blue Underground's DVD since the proper aspect ratio is maintained.
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Oh yes, that's true. Well, it's still a good movie. See it now! NOW I SAY!
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Hey Brad, what do you think of Argento's Tenebrae?
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Hmmm... How does one PG-13 masturbation to run-over-little-boy-head-Polaroids??? Rather still: how does one PG-13 driving over a little boy's head?!?
Heheheh, I saw that again for the first time in many years at a special midnight showing with Lloyd Kaufman and it was like a watermelon with a latex mask on... Classic.
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I haven't actually seen this one yet, might have to check it out soon. I only love Suspiria for the soundtrack honestly. I could never get through it on separate occassions. Plus Adrian Brody starring in the film seemed to give it some appeal, having an well-known actor in a not as well known film.
And going back on Fulci's work, I love New York Ripper. I think it's actually Fulci's best film honestly. I don't know why, I just love the style of that film plus the soundtrack is great. And I love his other film, Voices from Beyond. The 1991 film of his. If you want a copy of that Brad, I'll get you a downloadable copy sometime soon. It will be worth seeing a later Fulci film that is actually good. Yeah, me and you can get along with the Fulci stuff honestly. Haha.
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First off, great review and thanks for not spoiling/reiterating the other reviews; I will Netflix this one since I do enjoy some Argento. (I do agree that DEEP RED is awesome, and SUSPIRIA happens to be my second all-time favorite horror movie, after THE EVIL DEAD.) And I agree that if one is to make a PG-13 remake of THE TOXIC AVENGER, it would be based on the TOXIC CRUSADERS cartoon series (I used to collect the action figures of that show BTW). I can't wait to see this new thing you're putting up on Monday!
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And I bet you don't even know why the genre is called that...
Generally, the term "giallo" (literally translated with "yellow") is used worldwide to indicate typically Italian-produced sleazy thriller movies. In ITALY, the term generally indicates the mystery movies. The term was born because, when the first ever chain of mystery novels was published in Italy (in the 1920s, by the MONDADORI Publishing House, based in Milan), all those novels had yellow hardcovers.
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TEAM FULCI, FUCK YEAH!
I like Argento, but as he's been going along, his movies have been getting worse. The Card Player, oy gevald!
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I have to agree with your comments on the movie. It isn't horrible but nothing grand. As for toxic Avenger remakes, maybe it will turn out like the Toxic Crusaders cartoon, that was really bad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roq0lQ43dlQ&p=65F74C45869E6A65&playnext=1&index=21
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Why does everyone hate "Mother of Tears?" See, I disagree about the Argento movies. I'm not a big fan of Fulci or Argento, but I liked Suspiria and Mother of Tears (haven't seen Inferno all the way through). But I didn't like Deep Red, Tenebre, or the Bird With The Crystal Plumage. But I like Trauma and the Stendhal Syndrom. But I have always thought Argento was hit or miss, just like Wes Craven. Makes a few good movies, makes some shitty movies.
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It always cracks me up when these stuck up actors come along and try to get films they didn't like being in pulled from shelves all due to their selfish egos.
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I dont know about you, but I would not take kindly to working and not getting paid
guess that makes me stuck up with an ego problem, I should go into work and demand they stop paying me on Monday!
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Thought I'd recommend one of the weirdest, and certainly one of the best-titled, giallos, if you can find a copy:
"La Morte Ha Fatto L'uovo" (aka "Death Laid An Egg") (1968)
Giallo-meets-surrealism: some of Italy's most well-known stars, pretentious psychedelic editing, an ear-splitting avant-garde soundtrack, a hooker-knifing sleazeball, and a chicken farm that breeds headless chickens. Definitely a "WTF...?" classic.
The trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFnAhf1DyNM
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NOOOOO! I WANTED TO DO THIS FIRST! lol. Well, at least you've given me hope for this movie.
New York Ripper is pretty cool(although I'd argue that it's more of a slasher than a giallo).
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Good review, Brad.
I personally think that Cat O'nine Tails is the Best Argento movie. Saw it like 15 times, really like Karl Malden in it.
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just watched it, pretty much agree with you, but what was the huge twist with the killer? i guess i missed it, because i didn't see a huge spoiler twist at the end
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http://blog.moviefone.com/2010/10/18/adrien-brody-sues-dario-argentos-giallo/?_r=true
has the story on it.
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Hah, you can't fool me, Brad. I saw the cut when you were trying to remember the name of the other movie. You had to look it up?
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lol I know that's what it looks like, but I got interrupted by a very persistent Lloyd. Had to reshoot a portion of the review because of background meowing.
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Brad, just wanted to let you know, that your videos are great. I had a really bad day, had to call 911 because my roomate was not responding. That's not the point, but you shined light on my dark day with this review, believe it or not. Take care you smart motherfucker.
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Many thanks for the Dario Argento review!! I love Argento & it's great to hear your opinion. I'll have to give "Giallo" a look, I've been wary of his later stuff. Recently saw "Tenebrae," and it has some unusual stuff for Argento: a tight, coherent plot and John Saxon in a swanky-ass hat!
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I'm going to have to watch this one... I love the strange, otherworldly feel of giallo movies. An they always have these beautiful scores. My favorite Argento movie (which is a weird one to like so much), "Phenomena," had a bit more of the cop drama included with Patrick Bauchau's character (and Donald Pleasence to an extent). I actually like it more than "Suspiria." "Phenomena" actually managed to surprise me—which, when considering how many horror/cop movies I've seen, is pretty damn impressive.
So, as a fan of the giallo genre (and those great Spaghetti Westerns like Tonino Valerii's "My Name is Nobody") I have to watch this new Argento flick.
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Team Fulci ftw. Just saw "The New York Ripper" recently and I dug it, but I will always think "Don't Torture a Duckling" is Fulci's giallo masterpiece.
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Argento still hasn't done anything as bad as Manhattan Baby, Sweet House of Horrors, The Black Cat, or Sodom's Ghost and many other Fulci flicks...
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I've seen Adrien Brody in Splice very recently. Very unusual horror film, but it's not bad either.
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Damn it now I need to watch Demons again. I guess all the new stuff on your site will just have to wait. I'm sorry I just haven't seen a random crashing helicopter in a long time. And "She became a demon. A instrument of Evil!" is the best line in a horror movie ever.
I guess I would say "Team Argento!" at this point but apparently he's the unloved gay shirtless werewolf around these parts.
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Thanks for the solid review. We tried to make a fun piece of eurosleeze and nothing more. The casting of the killer was where we tried to make the film a meta-giallo... the mystery isn't about who the killer is as much as who is playing the killer.
And for the record, we really wanted the film to end it with that black screen.
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The article is very interesting, but some issues still remained less affected. I hope that a future article and will reveal things behind the scenes, things that show us the true face of this.
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