Radiodrome: Horror Films, Old vs New

Special Guest Griff from "More Horror Than Horror" stops by to talk about older horror films vs newer horror films.

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  • 4/4/2011 11:12 PM Paul wrote:
    This takes forever to download
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  • 4/5/2011 4:43 AM Paul wrote:
    I cannot listen to him say 'you know' anymore argh it's annoying.
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  • 4/5/2011 4:48 AM thatsamoanguy wrote:
    I dig it. haha
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  • 4/5/2011 8:22 AM glenn wrote:
    I had real problems down loading this.
    But for me, it's old horror. The older stuff comes from a time when you could shoot low budget films on film, which gives them a better look.
    Also because the directors and writers were not usually horror nerds they made an effort to put interesting ideas into their films. It's the difference between generic punk rock and good punk rock. Even in relatively fixed genres like slasher movies the best film makers tried to do something that stood out or had actual ideas. It's like comparing the minutemen with some so-cal pop punk band from the 90s.
    A lot of modern American horror just feels like the only reference point is other horror films. The actors are all too good looking, the soundtracks are all virtually identical from film to film and too many of them use that rapid editing technique.
    There are one or two good ones, but i can't get excited by Chain Letter. And as for remakes. Most of them are plain insulting crap. I don't care how many people tell me The Dawn of the Dead remake is good. I've seen it. Your talking Joe Nobody V Romero, Argento and Goblin at their best. I accept that everyone has their own taste, but I don't have to like it.
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    1. 4/5/2011 11:19 PM Danny from Puerto Rico wrote:
      As far as remakes go, I liked the new Dawn Of The Dead. It can't really be called a remake, since it only takes the premise of zombie survivors inside a shopping mall and nothing else from the first one, and taken on its own without comparing it to the original, it's actually a pretty neat movie. And holy shit, Jake Weber's character is the ONE GUY I want next to me in a zombie apocalypse, he was totally awesome. Honestly, it's unfair to compare the two. Day Of The Dead though(the original one) TOTALLY blasts any other zombie movie out of the water.

      But for the most part, you're right on, horror movie remakes are for the most part completely unnecessary and insulting to the originals. But when you think about it, the whole genre of horror has been on a downward slide to mediocrity since the mid-90s. That is, here in the States. Europe and the Far East can still dish out some VERY effective horror still. Let the Right One In, for example, was an incredible horror flick, and some of the stuff coming from Korea and Japan is awesome as well, too.

      What I'm surprised about, though, is that so much of the horror fandom is mortified by the state of horror films today, but so few are doing ANYTHING about it. I know making a movie is not something easy or cheap, but I'd expect much more independent filmmaking to fill the void, and you just don't see it. I've seen good independent films from pretty much every genre under the sun, but horror is sadly underrepresented. It's a shame, too, because there were a few small straight-to-video companies in the late 90s-early 2000s that were churning out some great flicks for the small budgets they were working with. The Dead Hate The Living is one I always point out to people as an example of what should have been.
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  • 4/5/2011 8:57 AM directtohomeappliances.com wrote:
    Horrors are horrors though the new ones are at least.
    Nowadays i don't watch and so i don't know about the latest.
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  • 4/5/2011 5:19 PM octo7 wrote:
    Another great episode guys. This is becoming my favourite radio show on the internet.
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  • 4/5/2011 6:05 PM Cosmin wrote:
    I do know where the song is from. However, did you find a standalone version of so (of the original track that's played there), or did you just rip it from the video file?
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  • 4/5/2011 6:26 PM Josh Hadley wrote:
    If you mean the opening track for the show, I ripped it.
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  • 4/5/2011 10:21 PM Danny from Puerto Rico wrote:
    THE BEST episode of Radiodrome so far. Griff is, IMHO, the best guest you've had yet, and the topics you discussed were the most informative and interesting.

    Griff had an EXCELLENT point: there is too much gratuitousness in terms of gore in movies today. He also made the point of context, and that's his best point by far. There is nothing wrong with gore in movies. I LOVE gore in movies. But gore has to have purpose for me to appreciate it. That's what I love about the 70s-80s horror flicks. Take, for example, flicks like The Thing, Alien, Predator, the John Carpenter classics like Prince Of Darkness, The Serpent And The Rainbow, Hellraiser. Yes, they have gore, but every single instance of gore in those has a very specific purpose. It is mostly used to give you a good sense of menace, the gore tells you that the beings onscreen MEAN BUSINESS. It is meant to tap into your primal fears. Also, the gore is used to complement the film, not make it. A film like Alien has gore, yes, but the main fear is the chase, the paranoia that this thing is gunning for you, following you around, unstoppable, implacable, immune to reason, visceral, primal. You add a little gore to all that menace and it has an impact. Yes, the xenomorph is following the heroes and it's scary and disturbing, but then it grabs one of them and rips his head off and you go "HOLY SHIT!" THAT is good gore. I compare gore to, say, spice in a dish. Some people like a little spice, some people like a lot, but you can't consume spice on its own without any meat or vegetables. You can't appreciate the flavor and it's probably bad for you.

    And Brad made an excellent point about the PG-13 horror films, and I didn't catch on 'til he mentioned it. When he mentioned that it was the slasher flicks taht don't work as PG-13 movies, he really hit the nail on the head for me. It made me think back about some movies that genuinely freaked me out, and some of them are PG-13. Poltergeist, 1408, Fire In The Sky(HOOBOY, that one got me GOOD)... Hell, JAWS is PG!!

    This was an excellent episode of Radiodrome, I just think it was the most focused episode yet, I definitely want to see more episodes like this. If I can make a suggestion, I'd love for you to discuss specific genres in upcoming episodes. I'd LOOOOVE an episode revolving around cyberpunk, that'd certainly make my day.

    Anyway, looking forward to upcoming episodes, guys, keep up the great work!
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    1. 4/5/2011 11:56 PM Danny from Puerto Rico wrote:
      Oh, another thing I forgot to comment about, I also liked Brad's comment about how old-school horror sequels he may not have liked, but that they were still watchable and didn't piss him off, and how flicks today are ruined by the constant one-upmanship. Very, VERY true. The thing is, horror movies from back in the day, even when bad, are still very riffable and fun with a group of friends. Some of the horror films today are just absolutely awful. That's why I respect reviewers like Phelous so much, it takes a LOT of talent to write humor into the crap HE reviews. I didn't watch Five Between the Eys and I felt stupider just by watching the little bits in his review. Holy shit does that movie look awful. And believe it or not, that's why I'm actually willing to give someone like Uwe Boll a pass. Sure, his movies are god-awful, but they're FUNNY god-awful. They have a cheese factor that's very much in tune with, say, the very bad Full Moon flicks. They're BAD, but watchable and funny in their own right. I remember I laughed HARD at House Of the Dead in the theaters(yes, I saw it in theaters, but I was forced to, the friend that forced me still pays for my ticket to the movies to this day in reparation).

      Let's face it, our kind of fandom is VERY tolerant of crap, as long as it entertains, it's just that horror, lately, is nothing BUT crap, so we're kinda bitter about the whole thing. I just wanna see someone make a balls-to-the-wall, badass demonic monster flick like back in the day. Something on the vein of The Thing, or Prince Of darkness, or The Keep. Something that'd make Carpenter, Argento or HP Lovecraft proud.

      Fuck, now I wanna watch Re-Animator again!
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  • 4/10/2011 8:14 PM nick wrote:
    Am I the only one that got an "edited" version of this episode? It like only covers 2+ minutes.
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  • 4/20/2011 5:02 AM SanguineSymphony wrote:
    More bitching about A Serbian Film? Damn... That's when I stopped listening to you last time. I would say most schlock's gore is done with limited context. Maybe you're thinking of execution?

    Either way I am disappoint.
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  • 5/11/2011 11:20 AM mtr wrote:
    shut up the special guest and talk about something interesting!
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  • 1/19/2012 4:55 AM learn to airbrush vegas wrote:
    An artist is a dreamer consenting to dream of the actual world. ~George Santayana
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  • 3/4/2012 8:26 PM josh wrote:
    I hate the stereotype of modern teens that they only like the "Torture Porn" flicks but besides Saw 1-3 i don't like them. i'm 16 and Bride of Frankenstein is one of my favorite movies of all time and thanks to this website I've gotten into 70's and Italian horror. so please next time say a majority of teens like those films
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