Spoony and Brad Uncensored on "Transformers 3"
While on Spoony's livestream, both he and I collaborated to give "Transformers: Dark of the Moon," and the other two movies, an extra pounding.
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kinda funny how you guys complain about the length of the film, but between your separate reviews and then this, you have easily talked about this movie in review form for more time than the actual duration of the full feature length movie. pretty lol really, especially since you are grown men and its fuckin' transformers.
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It is funny that two guys talking about the movie is far more entertaining than the 200 million dollar movie itself.
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Yeah, go figure he'd talk about a bad movie on a site dedicated to talking about bad movies. Shocking!!
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I don.t think this site is dedicated to talking about bad movies, The Snob is an ironic creation by a genre and b-movie fan.
The Snob rips into films Brad likes. But this is Brad and Spoony ripping into a film they both hate.
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The Snob and Brad are 2 different entity, and Brad has been doing v-logs (and now is midnight showing vids) giving is thoughts on recent movies for a LONG time, right along is Snob videos. While the site might focus more on the Snob, one doesn't prevent the other.
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Or the fact that the big anniversary movie is using toilet humor they would most likely complain about in Transformers.
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Suburban Knights is a comedy. Transformers isn't.
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And the *insert verb* Movies
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Meant to say that the *insert verb* Movies are considered comedies too.
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Being only actors, they both have the Harrison Ford defense.
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Well, when you have no job besides internet reviewing, you have time to do things like this
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I was there for the original podcast, but I had to hear it again. Too f'ing funny.
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5 minutes in and already Spoony interrupted you like 3 times. What the hell?
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To be fair, Brad also interrupted Spoony a few times and that is bound to happen in this kind of conversation.
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You've never had a two-way conversation before? Sometimes interruptions happen.
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I heard the part about Videodrome and the next words out of my mouth were "BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!!!"
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I think I'm done with Brad's site. He does a great job, and I like him, and the majority of the channel awesome folk. But enough is enough. The service they use, blip, it's terrible. I checked my connection, checked my computer, and even cross referenced other video streaming sites- Only Blip refuses to load, after their annoying ass commercial. I honestly think they do it on purpose. I've seen some annoying little 3 year old bitch say 'thats for babies' fifteen times trying to start this. Not counting the htc 'when i get older, blah blah' it literally has me ready to go murder children in ways that would make the beware, children at play cast and crew uncomfortable.
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I think it's just your computer. You may need to update flash or your browser.
But yeah, fuck that cheerios commercial. And the HTC one too.
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It's not his computer. I have a very fast connection and all the high speed gear I need and yet Blip still takes forever to load. Never a problem any other site...still, I'll never be done with Brad or anyone else from TGWTG. Winging on about it doesn't help. I'll suffer letting the video preload.
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Works perfectly fine for me.
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I agree I'm getting sick of those commercals as well and it happens to me alot on here and on TGWTG. I have to reload a video normally 2-3 times before it'll play. I really hate that little girl singing on a keyboard!
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The best I can tell you is that Adblocker Plus for Firefox can block Blip ads. For the rest, something's strange with your computer. I had problems with Blip but recently I reinstalled windows and thus every little other thing (Flash, etc), and my problem solved itself. Maybe that's what you gotta do.
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Using firefox and the "adblock plus" addon i cannot see any commercial at all...
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Adblock is god. It's been so long since I've seen a commercial on the internet that I get legitimately confused for a moment when people start bitching about them.
As for blip, once in a while I'll have a loading issue during high-traffic times, but generally I don't have a problem with it. The only thing I don't like about blip is that sometimes it will let you drag the time bar forward to a future point and start loading from there, and sometimes it won't.
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I use to have the same problem, but then I downloaded AdBlocker. Now every video I watch plays fine and it skips the commercials. Hope this helped.
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The ads are how I'm able to do this as my full time job and put up video after video nearly every other day of the week. It's how I provide for my wife and I, and in maintaining the site. So yeah, ad blocker helps, in fucking me over.
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I agree i stopped using AdBlocker On This site Because Brad Busts His Ass To Bring Us Great High Quality Content and you bitch about a 30 second ad and maybe having to reload the page a couple of times It's pathetic, Doesn't it make you happy to see an new Snob Episode,Brad Tries Or My favourite 80's Dan. Without the funding from ads He would not be able to make great content.So Please Stop Bitching.
Hilarious As Always Brad Keep Up The good Work
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Again with the 'Japanese'. In his last review, he called Dino/Mirage Japanese, when he was Italian, and now they're calling Que/Wheeljack Japanese, when he was German! He was a blatant parody of Albert Einstein!
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that is true! as of the movie wiki page!
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Yea, I'm sure there will be another movie, and it will be titled "Trans4mers". Mark my words.
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Does the opening ass-shot remind anyone of Idiocracy?
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John Malkovich was one of the people who got ripped off by Bernie Madoff (for over 2 million dollars) That motherfucker is trying to make his money back, quickly.
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It's a spin-off of the Bruno Mattei show, the Michael Bay Show.
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If I wanted the soul crushing despair that is finding out about the Videodrome movie I'd have just seen Tranformers 3 instead of listening to the two you engage in such a professional demolition of a movie. I will now drink until I go blind.
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I have this wicked cold, flu or whichever virus gives you a headache, shivers and cough right now and I can't concentrate on or enjoy any-fucking-thing (or just freaking sleep), but somehow hearing you guys savage Transformers: Dark of the Moon was a very soothing experience. Thanks for making the last hour or so much more tolerable.
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Looking at Twitter, it is amazing how many people are completely and utterly in love with this movie. Combine it with box office numbers, they are going to keep making more and more and more. Isn't that frustrating?
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I don't know what it is but I didn't really have any trouble telling the difference between the transformers with names. Except when they didn't establish that Soundwave (my favorite) was the Mercedes. and i did kind of like what they did with Laserbeak but that's just because it had no personality to begin with. my biggest problem was how easy the named Decepticons were killed off.
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I wish Alan Tudyk starred in this movie. Yeah, his character was a flamboyantly gay, but that's fine in my book when that character is awesome, which he absolutely is in this. Ninja, hacker, superspy, and frankly a damn good personal assistant to boot.
Sidenote, Brad, shitty TV comedies with offensive gay stereotype, pretty sure you were looking for Glee.
Where Bay fucked up (because he just can't help himself) is his complete abandonment of the character after showing him off. The character completely disappears after the highway chase. Oh, Tudyk appears on screen to hack in and lower the bridge, but there's no character there. He just says "Danke" and gives an epic face of victory.
Bottom line, if this movie starred a gay German Wash as a superspy instead of "the Beef," and Tudyk got to shine, I could justify showing this to friends for a reason other than spreading my misery. As it stands, it just makes me want to feed Bay to that robot tapeworm Shockwave was controlling (or was part of, fuck it if I know).
Oh, and the Einstein Autobot was named "Que" as in Q. I'm off to hang myself...
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Well of course the little dickweed (Sam) has severe emotional problems. Think about his fucking stupid parents.
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when and where does spoony do these livestreams?
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where and when does spoony do these livestreams?
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Shia exists to make you hate everything you once loved.
If Jillian is such a knowledgeable Transformers fan, I'd really like to get to see her talk about the show on camera. A few other people have done it on TGWTG, but I get the impression a lot of them didn't really follow the cartoon continuity.
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I 2nd this request! A true Transformer nerd's rant!
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Good to hear ya'll talking like this. It was enjoyable.
I'm still going to see the movie but I'm going to see the cheapest showing I can see a Sunday afternoon showing when I should be one of the only people there.
I do agree this movies are nothing like what they should be. Bay's an asshole with too much power for his own good. Spielberg should have made these movies himself as his name is already all over it. He'd at least try to develop the characters human and robot to be likable and not all be comedy reliefs. His original vision for the 1st movie was basically the same as ET but with a giant mute robot alien car. That actually would've been a lot better then what did happen.
I do wonder if this could save the franchise I heard that Bay didn't' want to do anymore of these he's really wanting to do another Bad Boys movie and I'm hoping the studio will be just greedy enough to hire a different guy to take the helm because they want to bang out a new sequel as fast as possible. And, I believe Spielberg's other favorite secret lovechild A.J.Abrams will take over. Ok, now listen he has the same style as Bay with the over use of lenses flares and explosions but he can piece a more coherent story and film together than Bay ever could look at Star Trek and Super 8(ya'll really seem to dig those movies of his a lot).
The 2 things I want to see in a Transformers movie are the freaking Dinobots and Unicron as the villain and I've said that since I saw part 1. I believe this continuity can be salvaged if they do a sequel and just drop the Sam character completely. The only human characters in these movies that might and I mean might be more interesting to fallow would be the freaking NEST team as they work with the Audobot on a daily basis so you'd defiantly see the supposed main characters more as they actually work in the same place.
Ya'll mentioned human characters that Bay thinks we liked thew ones I did like were in the 1st movie and they dropped them after it. John Voit character was more likable than freaking John Tertorores(Sorry I can't spell their names but I ain't good with names) he could've played the exposition guy and done it a lot better. Or that blond girl from the 1st movie the one that found the... whatever it was in the computers that shown that the Decepticons were hacking the US defense computers looking for Megatron and the Allspark. She was played fairly strait with no dumb jokes.
Also, before I wrap this up I do agree with you both totally. Spielberg has a weird hard-on for Shia LaPoof! Also, I did know a girl that was a huge fan of his and she thought he was hot for some reason. Enough so that her cell phone's ring tone was her singing, "Shia Labauf is hot" over and over... GOD, WAS THAT SHIT ANNOYING!!!
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Ehren Kruger is no longer on the Videodrome (2011) IMDB page. Also, nobody else is. It's blank. There's a Variety article confirming it (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118002863?refCatId=1237) so you didn't imagine it, but it does seems very hypothetical at this point.
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I may have missed it, but you guys forgot to mention the fact that the grand master plan is to bring Cybertron to Earth, to a point that is as from from the earth as the earth is from the moon. This would, I think, either pull earth into Cybertron since Cybertron seems quite large in comparison, or it would cause the planets to tear each other apart. The moon would definitely be pulled into Cybertron. It's idiotic. Also, the dark side of the moon changes with the phases of the moon, but that doesn't even matter since I don't think they even go to the dark side of the moon to find the ship. It is quite well lit from the sun. Great review/curb stomping of this cinematic soiree of the insipid. It is an intelligence black hole.
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You make a very good point! But, to ask Bay to do realistic physics and research that has nothing to do with the military is feudal battle!
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Finishing the video, want to note the Megatron's Igor bot also skullfucks Abraham Lincoln's head that's shot off the Memorial.
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I move that Jillian deliver a Transformers nerd V-log rant!
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This was great to listen to. I have the great fortune of being able to avoid this movie. The last two I got dragged off to by my family. This time, I've put my foot down and refused to give these movies any more of my money. I just can't do it anymore. When it costs me like $40 to go to the movies, the movie has to at least have a chance of being good.
I think I'm going to go watch the 80's animated movie and remember that good and decent things exist in this world. The 80's cheese will be delicious. It has aged well for me.
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This has an audience rating of 90% on Rotten Tomatoes...if I had any faith in humanity its gone now
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you guys all bitch too much. even the reviewers, whom are nominally paid to bitch. The second movie wasn't great, but it was fun. It wasn't agonizing, just not a masterpiece. I remember the first movie, too. My friend Adam and Drunk Rob and I waited til the first showing, and went- adam with a broken arm he wouldnt get treated because he, like I, had literally at that time waited 20 years for the film. TWENTY YEARS. And we were happy with it. It was a fucking good movie. I'm watching the third in a little bit, and I'm sure it'd gonna be what the majority of the world wants- giant robots beating the shit out of each other. Doesn't NEED to be more than that. Sometimes I agree with people like Brad and Spoony (almost never with spoony, he's like a male version of the nostalgia chick, lately, nitpicking instead of reviewing) But come on, people. It's supposed to be mindless summer blockbuster entertainment. It's not supposed to be a perfect picture. It's NOT supposed to be American Beauty. It's NOT supposed to be the Princess Bride. It's not even supposed to be a The Dark Knight. I guess the point is this video makes Brad and Spoony come off like douchebags, and these comments, to quote a previous poster, makes me lose faith in humanity. Fuck, man, they make Micheal Bay seem like a Uwe Boll, Honestly? He's not that bad. You've ALL seen worse movies. if 90% of audience members are liking it, maybe, JUST maybe...It's all you that are wrong? Brad? Spoony? Nitpick on something we want you to nitpick on. Find a bad FMV game, or a shot on shitty-o slasher flick. You're both hating here to capitalize on Transformers/Micheal Bay hate the second movie generated. On Youtube, we call that subwhoreing. In real life? We call that dick riding. You guys really wanna ride Micheal Bay's dick?
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It's okay for a movie not to be a full-bore cerebral masterpiece, but they shouldn't treat the audience like brainless morons in the process.
Which Bay has somehow never realised.
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Spoony and Brad are NOT nitpicking. If they were they would have talked about how the movies are unrelated to the animated series, or how the science crap didn't make any sense, but they don't do that. They don't even point out plot holes. The things they complain about are terrible, and not even switching your brain off would make them any less terrible, especially during that first half. There are so many moments that just make you cringe in this movie! It's sick, disgusting, in bad taste, un-funny, and the only thing that makes it better than the 2nd one is the Transformers' battle at the end.
Everybody knows it's not supposed to be a masterpiece, and no one was asking for that. Heck, look at half of the stuff these guys like - a lot of 80s action flicks that exist simply for the fun of it. But this film's not even that.. it's bad, just bad. I don't understand how anyone can defend it.
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is it too much to ask for characthers who aren´t annoying and a plot that makes sense? and is it too much to ask for a movie which doesn´t drone on for 2½ hours while nothing but explosions and annoying "comedy" happens?
Personally i find the second movie offensive, which is one of the reasons i won´t watch more of these. I´ve seen a lot of bad movies, but Transformers 2 is one of the most boring and headache enducing blockbuster movies i have ever seen. I had to stop it halfway through, just couldn´t take anymore... For reference, i actually enjoy Independence Day, i think that one is a decent action movie that manages to have both a basic story and entertaining action. I´m not that big a fan of movies which are nothing but action, i find it boring if there´s nothing else in there. And in Transformers, all but the action is terrible. Actually i must admit that i also find the action terrible, i can´t stand the editing and the camera work, i can´t see whats going on on the screen.
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So every single valid point Spoony and Brad made is now invalid because 90% of the audience liked it? Thats fucking stupid. Oh and seeing as you were expecting nothing the movie may have well have been called "Robots and ass". It seems Bay has given you more than wanted with a story and characters. Its sounds like you want a movie where robots punch each other then cut to some girls ass. Its pathetic. "I'm not expecting much so its okay that this movie is sexist and racist as well as stupid at the same time". As Brad and Spoony pointed out there are other summer movies out there that are just mindless popcorn movies that are great, but unlike this one are not sexist and stupid like this one. So for that very reason the Transformers movies such even as a zero expectation mindless popcorn movie. And as to them nitpicking, I dont see how complaining about a scene when a small Asian man pulls a bull-sack sweat stained piece of paper out of his gooch and then gives it the main character, is nit-picking. It cant be nit-picking because its fucking obvious.
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Oh, come on.
The movie being sexist is the only reason I watched it.
Terrible movie, but its good to see a movie these days that retains old fashioned sexism.
The racism, I agree, is very bad.
And the movie sucks.
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A strong effort on your part to state your opinion even though we would be in the minority but in the TGWTG universe, these people are gods (and goddesses so I am not sexist) compared to the rest of us. I am sure if Jillian does her rant, as so many people are calling for, the words "those that liked these movies are not true Transformers fans" will pop up and I doubt this will be a character thing like in the Twilight stuff.
I like how the phrase loosing faith in humanity is thrown around so much with anything these days. By this rate, it seems that EVERYTHING is bringing down the human race. But what do I know? My opinion is meaningless because I poor taste or no taste at all in movies. Off to the death camps with me.
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Surely the bards will pen great tragedies in homage to your martyrdom. I can only built hold my wrist to my brow at the thought of your divine suffering. Oh woe.
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A strong effort would have counter-pointing stuff, but instead he just railed on them for being "nitpicking douchebags", "subwhores" and "wanting to ride Bay's dick".
And that last one doesn't even make sense, given that they would have praised the movie in that case.
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I guess you went to the wrong site on accident because this is the cinema snob not the kiss your ass snob. Sorry. He nitpicks because he cares.
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The Cinema Snob is a character. This video wasn't The Cinema Snob, it was Brad Jones and some guy.
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Ohhh Brad, Brad my boy...the words "Credible Director" and "Michael Bay", do not belong in the same sentence, ever. XD
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Brad-I'm going to be cynical and make the claim that Bay and Speilberg went out of their way to specifically make a racist movie so that they could draw in the NASCAR crowd. I mean, they already know they got a lock on the nerd community because they have Transformers. But to pull in the second audience they create the racist characters and sexist shots.
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It's refreshing to finally hear someone talk about the Sam's girlfriend paradigm. As Brad stated, they could have just recasted the role and it would the the same, actually better. Just look at the Dark Knight.
This makes me ask more questions, like why did she dump him? What is the story there? They seemed in love in the last two. They crossed fucking battlefields together.
Also keep in mind that even though they broke up, you would think she would be concerned when the WHOLE FUCKING WORLD is at stake. Could have wrote her dead if you wanted to send off the character so bad.
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Brad, Noah... You guys are my damn heroes for the day. Seriously. You are so damn right.
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Transformers is big robots smashing things in a film based on a toy. So why is anyone expecting it to be more than a two hour advert for toys? It's just the boys equivalent of my little pony and Justin Bieber. I have to watch because I've got a kid, so frankly I see the broad humour and young wench flitting about in her underwear as pluses.
The sad thing is Transformers 3 would have been much better if it was Megan Fox in her underwear. That's my opinion as both a dad and a lecherous old fart.
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I agree with both of you. I FUCKING HATED Transformers 2. I was dragged into it. I really don't wanna see this one, but i might be dragged into this one two.
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3rd
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If someone wants another entertaining rant Mark Kermode did what has to be the most hilarious film rant i have ever heard:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFm6nWeJeoA
oy, Turn it up bright!
And he got a point, there is something pornographic about Bays way to film things.
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Btw, it isn´t necesarily bad that the writer behind Transformers is writing a remake of Videodrome, once upon a time he wrote a powerful movie called Arlington Road, i think he might have some talent, he just decided not to show it for a looong time.
Not that i want to see a remake of ANY Cronenberg movies, they don´t really need any improvement.
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I've read and listened to a lot of the criticism of Transformers 2 and 3. I am no Micheal Bay fan, I would put him on trial for what he did to TCM.
But we we've been here before, This film is racist, it's is sexist, it's an advert for weapons. The director is a pornographer, blah, blah,blah. It was said about every action film of the 70s and 80s. It's dumb, it's this, its that, it's aimed at children, imbeciles, it's a fascist fantasy, for primitives. It's been said said about everything from Star Wars and beyond. I think that Transformers 3 is a kids film with big robots and a bit of eye candy to keep dads watching. In 10-20 years time the small boys who grew up liking these movies will not be saying "gosh, those critics are were so right!". They'll be saying "these films get a bad rep, critics took them way too seriously" The truth about criticism is that it is essentially an amusing form of arrested adolescence. It's big kids ranting because other people, usually actual kids, like the wrong thing and then treating stamping on other people's as if it was a social duty.
You may as well accuse films of having an imbalance of the elements, the evil eye, consorting with the devil, casting spells on a neighbours ox and being the cause of the pox for all the logical sense it makes. I by the way am a pinko. liberal do-gooder. I don't think Transformers 2 was racist, I think it was a bunch of cliches strung together as a short-hand way of establishing characters on a cartoon level and that everyone is taking it way too seriously
The TCM remake and NOES remake. I do firmly believe are evil incarnate. Soul sucking pap, from the very pits of Satan's rancid stools and that if you like them you the dark lord will do unspeakable nasty things to your nether regions for eternity.
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Your option of this movie and its target audience reaction would be fine, if it could not easily be proven wrong. For instance let's take your theory of children who watched this movie series now and will in the future praise it and compare it with a very appropriate past example: Transformers: The Movie (1987).
Stereotypes? Sure we have the Dinobots who appear to act as if they are primitive cavemen. Now I'm sure that there is no one such being alive to be offended by this and yes the joke make no sense to anyone with basic knowledge of prehistory but, since there are no racial stereotypes, one can easily defend this with the fact that yes the humor is targeted at kids. Sexism? Well I let you have this to an extent, there is only one (robot) female character in the entire film, but she is involved in the action to a fair extent. Annoying comedy relief characters? As for the humans, Spike's hardly in it and Daniel is mostly used as a character for kids watching but is usually in the background and is, even as a small child, far more likable and mature than Sam. And yes there are a few annoying comic relief characters (such as blurr) but once again THEY'RE ALL SECOUND BILLING TO THE PEOPLE ACTUALLY INVOLVED IN THE FILMS MAIN CONFLICT. Unlike Revenge of the Fallen they Optimus stays dead the entire film making his death all the more touching. The main character, Hot Rod, has a character arc which, although basic, is miles above any characterization in any of the recent movies. There every single main character is either a one joke comic relief, eye candy or the no psychotic Sam character. Sure many of the characters in are basic 2D characters, but think about how the best human character in T3 that Brad and Noah were taking abut WAS a 2 dimensional action movie villain. An above all, because apparently you just don't seem to get this, the Transformers were main characters in a movie CALLED Transformers. Seriously it even beats it in the obscure category of "Use of Leonard Nimoy."
This is why we can look back on Transformers The Movie we joy. Kid's movies can at least be decent or even incredibly good, and that's why we remember those and the rest we have the Nostalgia Critic tear to shreds.
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My theory of what kids will say about Mike Bay's Transformers movies is based on having a kid who loves them and a nephew who loves them. It's also based on having once been a kid and liking films that critics hated. Further more it's based on growing up on James Bond and action films packed with half naked ladies, one dimensional characters, terrible puns and things exploding.
I can't talk about the specifics of Transformers as a concept, because I've never seen the cartoons. I don't think all the Kids who like Bay's Transformers will praise them, but I suspect there will be more affection than hate because for a lot of youngsters it will be their formative movie going experience.
My broader point was about the adolescent nature of criticism of the popular arts. When I was young I would rant about anything and everything. As I got older I found that a lot of things I poured scorn seemed much better than I remembered them as being.
It's like the Twilight thing. In the end the criticism is boys v girls, puppy dogs and snails stuff. Mixed in is a bit of homosexual panic. I don't watch the films. I'm not into that kind of thing. But come on, ranting that sparkling vampires are not proper vampires is bit ridiculous, really. My view of critics is that they can be very funny, but essentially they are small children stamping their feet because they prefer Batman to Spider man or are having a tantrum because they got the wrong Christmas present.
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Really? I thought the "Twilight thing" was that it's poorly written dross which seems to be saying stalking, sneaking into someone's room to watch them sleep, and feeling the urge to rip their throat out is "love".
Then, of course, the white monsters are sparkly and perfect, while the Native American monsters are snarling beasts... nothing awkward about that message.
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I think twilight is a series of films that young girls like and most of the whining about it is from an audience it isn't aimed at. As I say I don't watch the Twilight films. But I don't object to their existence on the grounds that one set of mythical pretend creatures is more realistic than another. Nor do I make spurious points about it being badly written. Most of the films I like have interchangeable scripts. As for the hints that twilight is racist. What about Batman? Most of the villains are facially disfigured or have some sort of abnormal physical characteristic. So basically Batman consists of a multi-millionaire beating up disabled people. I like Batman because I like films with cars, guns and action scenes. This has more to do with me having testicles than the morality and quality of the films.
As I get older I find it harder and harder to hate stuff aimed at girls. I say that if girls want to watch rom coms, musicals, sparkly vampires and whatever else it is they watch, it's fine by me. Obviously, not all girl's like that kind of thing and that's fine too. But come on, the Anti Twilight stuff is plainly boy's v girls. This is the joke behind Gillian and Brad's reviews of the series.
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This is so damn good. I really hope these UNCENSORED videos become a re-occurring feature, because you two together are like Lennon and McCartney.
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The only good thing about about Transformers 3 is it will lead to Transmorphers 3. Sadly, The Asylum has made the more compelling franchise when comparing Transformers to Transmorphers.
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THIS FUCKING FLIM MADE $97.4 MILLION! WHAT THE NUN RAPING FUCKING FUCK?!
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It scares me to see how many people love all these crappy movies getting pumped out weekly. I can only hope someone will come to the scene to bring art back to the big screen. I remember when I saw the second movie. I saw it at the drive in and most of it was spend wondering around the car or looking at the stars. I complained to my friends about the movie saying it focused on the humans more then the Transformers and they looked at me like I was crazy. Fuck these movies to hell.
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Oh my God, it was sooooo bad. It was sooo bad. Fuck it. I'll not pay for another Transformer.
It was not even entertainting, it was a disaster. The plot was a mess, there was no development of any kind. It doesn't have to be a freaking Casablanca, but fuck! Bay do at least a decent job telling a story IN CORRECT ORDER AND DEVELOPMENT.
BTW, first time I hear one of these streams and laugh my ass off. Thanks guys!
At least in Puerto Rico the 3D ticket only cost me 9.55.
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Ok, I got to watch it today finally and I agree with a lot of your points completely.
I totally agree that pretty much all the scenes with Shia and his "problems" could've been completely cut out and nothing would've changed outside you'd saved everyone an hour and a half of annoying crap. And his parents did nothing but make me wish they'd been shown on screen being War of the Worlds style killed off like all those people at the end.
My biggest compliant is with all the plot holes that are from the last movie. Apparently the Transformers are still a top secret thing in this world. You'd figure everyone in the world would know about them when the Fallen did a worldwide broadcast telling the world of their excistince and what they're doing there and what they want. If they do manage to pull another sequal out of this franchise and they still try playing the government is hiding giant alien robots plot after they litterally invaded Earth and destroyed an intire city full of people and killed hundreds of thousands of people I'll be freaking shocked at their stupidity.
But, as I said earlier in my 1st post to this review/crossover I dought there'll be a sequal as the lasy 5-10 minutes seem to me at least like Bay was just like Quick we got to kill off all the villains some how because I don't want to have to come back to this crap. there was for once ZERO sequal baiting here. Starscream was killed off in the lamest way possible, Soundwave... he at least got a few good scenes and a decent sendoff but I'd liked to seen him more as he was my favorite character from the 80s series, Megatron was just strait up MURDERED! He was injured and asking for a truce to end the war(and unlike his animated counterpart he seemed t actually be serious) and Optimus just axed him in the head and ripped his face off. Now if they'd shown that he had something in his hand that he was going to use to try and kill Optimus when they I don't know went to shake hands or something then it'd make sense but no Optimus just outright chops his head off. and Sentanel Prime was even worse he was litterally begging him and he got shot exicution style in the back of the head and that was just wrong for the characters. and the biggest one of them all every one of the invading Decepticons were just magically sucked up into the exsploding Cybertron for no aprent reason outside, "Oh shit this movie is the end of this shit and we don't want to leave any villains left for a sequal!"
But, I can still see how a sequal can be sqeezed out if the studio's so desire another just for greed's sake aloan. The whole Unicron thing could still be wedged in. And since the3y didn't just have Optimus piss on and burn up all that remain of Megatron's corpse he could still be turned into Galvatron just because!
I just hop if there is another as I said before they drop Bay and his characters that aren't robots!
I'll even chalkup all the stuff I understood/liked about this movie was the crap I read on wi
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wiki. like the actually character develipment for the robots!
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Ok I just relistened to ya'll's audeo here and relized some stuff I forgot about the movie. And this is stuff I relized ya'll should have figured out and mentioned. Like mst of the personalities of the other robots were ripoffs too of known characters ike Dino(Mirage) is just Inigo Montoya, but suppose to be Italian. One of the Wreckers the Red Target car one who was never named in the movie(wiki said his name is Leadfoot) is freaking Fat Bastard from Austin Powers! He even got a fat stomach or I think his hood was suppose to be a stomach... for all I know that was suppose to be a kilt. Also, just some triva learned from Wiki that Igor robot was supose to be the still surving head of Long Haul(one of the Constructicons from the 2nd movie)
Also, other movies it was rpping off that just came back to me were Star Wars. Alot of the sound effcts were ones from from th origion Star Wars like the sounds the lasers make and engions.
Also, something ya'll were semi lucky when ya'll seen it was late at night it might've been a packed theater full of teens but my showing wasn't packed but it was full of kids and I some how wound up sitting 2-3 seats away from a 4 year old that kept yelling a the screen. At least ya'll were spared that much.
Also, you gotta love the stuff put in the movie soully for the sake of marketing a new toy. Like that "Grappling Glove" because that thing didn't need to excist. the whole thing with it and Starscream's eye could've been done with just some random other iteam, but no it's the new toy that kid'll want for Christmas this year!
Also, something I just liked about the movie was it actually shown Megatron doing something to make him likable. Him feed "baby" transformers in that scene in Africa. For some reason I liked that and for some reason make you think his plans actauly do sound like he's got the right things in mind for his species. Because if you look at this from the POV of if they were humans and the Earth was dead or dying and the only way for us to survive is to attack another planet or move to one but a bunch of eco-terrorist/moralist were trying to stop us because it's wrong to them... basically this is more a rip off of Avatar or the movie that came out a year before that but no one has seen, Battle for Terra!
Ok, I hink I'm out of things to say again! sorry if I'm doing this waaaaaay too much!
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Good to see the movie being torn a new asshole, but I have to call you at 27:00.
Spoony said "misogynistic" and Brad apparently agreed as he did not point out that was the wrong word.
The movie is arguably sexist, due to the women not doing much besides being hot. I cannot argue that some may find this sexist, or chauvinist, or even somewhat disrespectful.
Think what you want; really, those types of things make me like the movie more, but I am an anachronistic asshole, and people like me in 100 years will be gone.
But "misogynistic" I am not, and neither is Bay, and neither is this movie. Quite frankly, it is offensive how often this word is thrown about in society these days.
For the record, misogyny is the hatred of women. For instance, if you believed rape of women, and violence against women, should be legalized, you would be a misogynist.
To be perfectly clear: I do not fall into this camp, I think rape/violence are terrible.
But the word "misogyny" is applied to basic sexism, that stems not from hatred of women, but just being sexist or chauvinist, which is argubably not the ideal belief (although it is a belief I proudly hold), but is certainly not a problem like misogyny.
People throwing around the word cheapens it, and makes it less severe.
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Brad more of this kinda thing please, this was awesome to listen to.
hell you oughta make a new show just for this, Brad Talks with...
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I really dont think transformers 3 was that bad, i really dont.
Personally i think that transformers was medicore and okay. What else can one expect from a summer blockbuster from michael bay?
You cant compare this movie to good movies, such as schindlers list and the godfather. Because transformers is just about big fucking robots kicking the shit out of each other. It had a predictable plot, but it was entertaining.
I know its fun to bitch about movies, but the transformers animated series from the 80ies was also about the good and evil transformers fighting and the good ones winning in every episode. Its the same with the movies - so what did you people expect? If they had done something very different from the plot of the original series that would also have been bad.
But that being said, transformers 3 was not a good movie, but it was not a poor movie in my mind.
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I fail to see why we should be offended by Nimoy using "the needs of the many" quote.
Now, I am no fan of Star Trek, so the line does not rape my childhood in any way.
But seriously, it's not like NIMOY using the line HERE lessens in in the OTHER MOVIE. Who cares?
Really, NIMOY starred in the WRATH OF KHAN. If he is comfortable using the line, and he was in IT, and we/you are just FANS, why does it matter.
An analogy, my favorite movie since I was 3 has been Jaws.
Now, if ROY SCHNEIDER was for some reason in this movie, and for some reason said, "You're going to need a bigger boat," I would not be offended.
I would say, well, JAWS the greatest movie, and it can have that line still, it is not lessened.
Now, I do think Transformers 3 is MOTHERFUCKING SHIT, but I dont think that Schneider saying that would be a bad thing, or lessen Jaws.
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I don't think you should overreact to the ehrin kruger remake of videodrome, if it happens.
Really, I agree videodrome is AWESOME, and the remake will be SHIT.
But who cares? I know you feel like you HAVE to see it, being critics.
But that's your own choice of job, no one is forcing you to be a critic, or see the movie.
Furthermore, the original will be unchanged, and still be awesome.
I mean, think about it. Lots of good horror movies have had shit remakes these days. Friday the 13th, A Nightmare on Elm Street, the Hitcher.
Well, you know about this recent plague.
But who cares? The originals are still intact, on my shelf, and clean of the remake-ish garbage.
Remake fucking anything you want, it can NEVER chagne the originals.
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I can't believe that for the compliments given about the few badass moments Optimus has, I've yet to hear people talk about the scene where he kills Shockwave by cutting him in half... but then gets caught up in a bunch of cables for twenty fucking minutes.
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Hey Brad and Spooney watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atj7hiv2qM8 some one mentioned it somewhere and I found the video! I knew there was Hockey transformers somewhere and it's a car ad!
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I am *so* glad you brought up this thing of needing to bluntly and boldly just state shit for people to get things anymore. It's like no one reads between the lines or thinks or interprets anymore. If the humor isn't amazingly just in your face, blatant and at times gross, people won't see it as humor anymore. And in the case of gay characters, you have to play it up 100 times or people just won't get the point.
It's simple trash is what it is. It's people being unwilling to think, to interpret or understand anything without you handing it to them on a platter all lined out and explained. It makes me so damn angry, particularly when it comes to games or books. It's like things are being dumbed down just so people don't have to strain to understand.
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Leonard Nimoy watch star trek 2 and then come back.
that misuse of that line is one of the bigest sins you could ever commit in writing and michale bay is the fucking devil at this point for misusing that line and tarnishing it.
And ontop of that his One Good film was a ripoff of Miami Vice, bad boys 1 and he hated the writing of that, so when he sees a script for a well writen film he hates it which oughta tell you about who were dealing with
and a remake tarnishes the original as well, look at get carter.
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It's actually a SIN to misue that line?? So, you are saying, that that movie is HOLY and we should WORSHIP it?
That is a complete overraeaction. The misue of the line means nothing. This Transformers film is shit, and uses a line from a good film. The original film and line is untarnished. I fail to see how this is any way will make you like Star Trek less. If anything, you should like it more, because now when you hear the line, you will be happy you are watchinga great movie and not this Michael Bay shit.
Seriously, the movie is shit, but using that line is really not a problem at all, especially compared to, say, FUCKING DEEP WANG.
Michael Bay is not the devil. He is simply an unskilled director. Although I would say that the Rock is good, but I will watch anything with Cage.
No it doesn't. Get Carter from the 70s is awesome, and the Stallone one is shit. How does the new one being shit effect my liking of the old? That makes no sense.
Seriously, I agree its a terrible movie, but all this religious talk coming from you is really weird.
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I loved the review, like always. And over an hour long? There goes my night (In a good way, of course)!
I just wanted to add a little snippet with Shia. I don't understand the whole sex-symbol thing, but I'm one of those old-school Shia fans; I loved watching Even Stevens as a kid. Pretty much the only reason I like him.
Even so? I won't watch this movie. The second one was just not my cup of tea, and after learning more about Bay.
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I stopped listening when he said " I could care less about 3D." It's " i COULDN'T CARE LESS."
Dark of the Moon is one of the most entertaining movies i have ever watched at the cinema. IT doesn't need oscar winning story. There is only so much you can do with Transforming robots anyway. The 3D was jaw dropping. The Action scenes were well shot and intense. An epic cinematic experience.
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A discussion of the desecration of Videodrome by Ehren Kreuger on Radiodrome?
IT MUST BE DONE!
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I think I heard Spoony's heart sink and hit the floor after Brad told him the guy who wrote Transformers 2-3 is attached to the remake of Videodrome. I wish there was a video feed so we could of seen Spoony's reaction to the news. Also, the part where Spoony mentions the Autobots relocating to Canada after being deported from the U.S. was hilarious.
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I think I heard Spoony's heart sink and hit the floor after Brad told him the guy who wrote Transformers 2-3 is attached to the remake of Videodrome. I wish there was a video feed so we could of seen Spoony's reaction to the news. Also, the part where Spoony mentions the Autobots relocating to Canada after being deported from the U.S. was hilarious.
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Was linked to this on IMDb's Tf3 board and I agree with all you've discussed, even if it is too lengthy it was entertaining nonetheless.
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i liked the movie (not because this would actually be a good movie; i am just crazy about insane action scenes), and i believe that i'm just as smart as you two "critics"
fucking snobs
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Fucking thank god that i'm not alone in my thoughts.
Me and my friend just looked at each other and was like, omg what did we just watch? and we felt like the smartest people in the theater too because everyone was laughing and clapping. Goddamit i hate this movie. Worst movie i've ever seen in my life.
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"It's robots fighting, it doesn't need an oscar worthy plot"
There's still a LOT of distance between Oscar worthy, good, decent, passable and Michael Bay. The conflict between two factions of robots doesn't require that much. Certainly it doesn't require most of the screentime eaten up by superfluous non-robot characters or comedy relief side characters that don't contribute to the actual central conflict.
That, and how fucking hard it it to make robots you can distinguish from eachother, especially even if the villains are meant to be individual characters. Hell, the unique Decepticons have been an important selling point to the series for long, because they got all the cool military vehicles.
The plot doesn't need to breinvent cinema. Good robots fight bad robots over energy resources, or some magic thingy that can blow up the sun. You can make this without idiotic use of racial, sexist and homophobic stereotypes, and without any zany human characters. A movie about giant robots doesn't need jokes about the masturbation habits of some shmuck whose only claim to relevance to the plot is owning a car that turns out to be a robot.
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While I do HATE Transformers 2 and Transformers 3, the first movie is in my opinion still a flawed, but okay popcorn film. Sure, it has Shia LaButfuck and some of the other problems that made the other two so hateful, but at least those aspects are lessened from their successors and the action is actually entertaining.
However, for Revenge of the Fallen and Dark of the Moon, I agree 100% with everything Brad and Spoony said.
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Does anybody know where there's MP3 download for this one too.
I would love to have this one too.
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