Nekromantik

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  • 7/28/2011 1:39 AM CodyCodafer wrote:
    hey excellent review as usual brad
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  • 7/28/2011 1:46 AM Adroitism wrote:
    Dammit cheated outa first! Still a good review though.
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  • 7/28/2011 1:48 AM Darre Forest wrote:
    Could be worse: Could be a "Gay Zombie" movie. Seriously, not only is that the actual title, but if I recall correctly, one scene involves the zombie biting a hole into his lover's waist and fucking it. Or maybe that's "Pride of the Dead," another gay zombie movie. ...why am I looking for gay zombie movies again?

    ...oh yeah, because I'm physically aroused by H.P. Lovecraft's Re-Animator, silly me. >.>;

    IMDB link to Gay Zombie: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1054488/
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    1. 7/28/2011 2:42 AM BooRat wrote:
      I vote for Brad to review this!
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      1. 7/28/2011 4:02 AM angelique_sp wrote:
        Seconded....Motion Carried!
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        1. 7/28/2011 11:50 AM Wayne wrote:
          Motion dismissed. 2007 is after The Snobs cut-off date.
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          1. 8/3/2011 12:06 PM Sammantha wrote:
            UNless it had a prequel made before 1995. Then he will review it after 1995
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            1. 3/20/2012 8:30 PM Noah wrote:
              I second whatever Sammantha just said.

              Also, Brad was right in the "Serbian Film" review. This movie does have a beautiful soundtrack.
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    2. 7/28/2011 8:17 AM BlackBobby wrote:
      You want a film snob to review a movie about gay zombies? Head over to Oancitizen's "Brows Held High" archive on blip and watch his review of "Otto, or Up With Dead People".
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    3. 7/28/2011 10:33 AM Ferdie Fox wrote:
      I believe your're thinking about the Canadian/German porno Otto; or Up with Dead People.

      http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1151384/

      Actually, someone on thatguywiththeglasses.com had already reviewed that movie but I'd rather not mention his name. Mainly because he's somewhat controversial on these comment boards and I do not want these boards to be bogged down in pointless arguments.
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      1. 7/28/2011 10:39 AM Ferdie Fox wrote:
        BTW, this is in response to Darre Forest's post.
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    4. 8/1/2011 10:52 PM Rockabilly Dolphinman wrote:
      If I made a gay zombie movie it would be called 'Resurrectum'
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      1. 8/3/2011 1:09 AM Darren Forest wrote:
        That is the most epic name for an appropriately named porno since "Chatterbox" You win three internets, good sir.
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  • 7/28/2011 1:50 AM Thumper17 wrote:
    I actually almost puked watching this episode, and I sat through hostel without flinching.
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    1. 7/28/2011 11:40 AM John wrote:
      The Hostel's and their ilk (the Saw movies, Wolf Creek, Turistas, The Human Centipede, and so on and so forth) are nothing but hype.

      I am a fan of exploitation films, and I like the idea of exploitation and gore/violence/swearing/drug use for their own sake. If I were to make a movie, the word "fuck" would be used over 3 times per minute, and every shot would have someone smoking a cigarette and/or someone snorting cocaine.

      I enjoy exploitation for its own sake. If you just want to show me some tits and gore, I can accept no story, terrible characters, annoying dialogue, and so on. Those things are nice, but I will accept gore for its own sake, if the gore is good enough.

      The problem is, mainstream torture porn like Hostel, and the others I mentioned above, simply do not have nearly enough violence and gore for me. Therefore, we have no characters/story/plot, which is in theory okay, but also not nearly enough violence and gore. So the movie has no merits, either to appeal to the "quality film liking" side of me, or to appeal to "give me some tits and gore" side of me. So they fail.

      The more obscure movies, like Nekromantik, or Flower of Flesh and Blood, or even A Serbian Film (not so obscure, due to its newness), or August Underground Mordum, and a lot of stuff Brad reviews, I can accept, because the vileness/gore/whatever is enough that I don't need plot and whatnot.

      Of course, having both things is ideal, but I am in general happy to settle for one or the other.

      And when you have neither, you wind up with fucking horseshit like Gerry, which Brad correctly pegged as the worst movie of the 2000s, and, possibly, of all time.

      At least Hostel TRIES to be gory enough to not require a plot, and perhaps for many people it succeeds. For me, however, the gore is not enough to offset the lack of plot and annoying characters. Although I still would take Hostel over Saw anyday.

      For that reason, it is at least trying to be itneresting, Hostel is still leagues and leagues and leagues above Gerry.
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      1. 7/28/2011 12:41 PM Yogurt wrote:
        The problem with the "torture porn" films (ie. Hostel, Hard Candy, Devil's Rejects, Wolf Creek) is not that they contain torture. I have no problem with the portrayal of torture in films as long as it has a point (like in Ken Russell's "The Devils"). The problem with the aforementioned modern films is that they contain nothing BUT torture, in lieu of having a plot, story, character development, theme, point, etc. The best example of this is the vastly overrated "Devil's Rejects," which is almost literally nothing but torture scenes that go on forever. It's just boring to watch.
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        1. 7/29/2011 11:31 AM glenn wrote:
          Hard Candy has a plot and a point, it's pretty much a two handed play based on shifting sympathies.
          Hostel's main problem is that Roth spends the first half of the film making a really poor sub Porky's teen comedy.
          The torture porn tag is just a meaningless phrase used by people who hate horror movies to imply that fans are sexual perverts and by old duffers to complain about young horror fans. I don't like much modern horror but the moral outrage of some horror veterans is ridiculous. "No torture porn is bad! Why can't they just imply the horror by showing someone scalp hookers like they did in Maniac or stabbing someone through the top of the head with a two foot long bayonet like the Prowler? We were more moral and intelligent in the 80s. We didn't just sit around in a big group watching Jason slaughter kids through umpteen movies on the off chance that there would be some naked ladies" Honestly between the the two camps of "modern horror is too nasty" and "not not nasty enough" grumpy old buggers, I almost admire gormless kids for watching SAW 12 or whatever it is they're on at the moment.
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          1. 7/29/2011 1:37 PM Yogurt wrote:
            "Hard Candy" had no point, it was just a 14-year-old girl torturing a fully grown man for the entire movie, which was retarded. I'm sorry, but Ellen Page needs to show the goods already. All that teasing she did in that horrible "Tracey Fragments" movie was agonizing.
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            1. 7/29/2011 6:48 PM glenn wrote:
              Actually it was a revenge film with a girl who may or may not have been 14 torturing a sex killer who liked to pick up teenage girls. Personally I thought it was a pretty good variants on the torture sub genre. I liked the shifting sympathies of the character dynamics. Sure it wasn't realistic, but then again virtually no films in any genre are. In real life if you so much as stand on a nail you end up down in casualty. In movies people get stabbed or shot and can still out run an explosion despite being in their 40s and 50s and the fact that out running an explosion is impossible.! So why not a girl drugging and torturing a grown man. It's certainly no less plausable than a crime fighter in rubber fetish gear, zombies, aliens and all the other films i like.
              And to be blunt genre fans arguing about realism is just comical.
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              1. 7/29/2011 8:54 PM Yogurt wrote:
                So, we're in agreement: Ellen Page needs to get naked.

                "In movies people get stabbed or shot and can still out run an explosion despite being in their 40s and 50s and the fact that out running an explosion is impossible."

                I think that's fuckin' retarded too. My favorite example is when the hero continually outruns machine gun fire, but he never fails to hit the badguys dead-on every time with a pistol.
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                1. 7/30/2011 3:58 AM glenn wrote:
                  Yes. I hate it when actresses choose role after role designed to titillate and them fail to deliver. Ellen definately needs to get naked! For her, erm, art obviously.
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                  1. 8/18/2011 12:21 AM Chris wrote:
                    So... a movie about a fourteen-year-old girl torturing a man is designed to titillate? Huh.
                    And really? You need her to get naked in order to appreciate her as an actress. I can see how much you value acting.
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                    1. 8/26/2011 5:54 PM glenn wrote:
                      I was being deliberately flippant in an exchange with someone else being flippant. Plus I have a taste in films that runs to exploitation sleaze.
                      And actually I don't really care about acting that much. I'm a big fan of dubbed horror movies and see acting as secondary to the visuals in most cases. Sorry. if I offended you.
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                      1. 3/20/2012 8:33 PM Noah wrote:
                        My words are so thin.
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        2. 7/29/2011 10:03 PM John wrote:
          I'm going to disagree. I do not requirea film to have a point, as long as the torture is graphic enough.

          I point to "Guinea Pig 2: Flower of Flesh and Flood" as a prime example. The movie is just some guys carving up a girl. No plot, just mutilation.

          However, it is so graphic and disgusting, that I can accept the "no plot, no characters, no character development, no theme, no point.

          The problem with "torture porn" films is not that they don't have a point, it is that they don't enough meaningless torture to justify not having a point. So without that, they do, as you say, become boring.

          However, I am going to disagree on the Devil's Rejects (sorry). I think it was an awesome movie (probably in my top 10 horror films of the 2000s), and there was a plot, and characters. And there really are not that many torture scenes, esepcially ones that go on too long.

          Hard Candy was okay. Wolf Creek sucks ass, I admit, but I was quite pleased **SPOILERS** that the man survived and the girls died, that was a nice thing to have in a horror film **END SPOILERS**. I FUCKING hate all the Saw movies, even the first.

          As for Hostel, I know that by my own logic, I should hate these movies, but for some reason, I like them. I'd call them a guilty pleasure, but I don't feel guilty. Certainly, the torture and gore is nowhere near enough to affect me. But I guess I just like asshole characters. That's why, although Phelous is awesome, I often like the movies he hates, I just don't mind asshole horror movie characters. I don't know why.
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        3. 8/3/2011 7:21 AM LeakyFlask wrote:
          Umm, Hard Candy wasn't really a horror film. I don't think it would count as torture porn, in fact, it wasn't even gory by far. It was a psychological thriller, based on dialogue and soap opera-style revelations, and I quite enjoyed it.

          Also, the guy who likes August Underground: what the actual fuck?!
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  • 7/28/2011 1:56 AM angelique_sp wrote:
    Reminds me of a book of collected horror stories I've got....
    "Scared Stiff" - 'tales of sex and death'.
    ...just a barrel of snuggles
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    1. 7/28/2011 2:23 AM angelique_sp wrote:
      And Hooray! for the Jerrid's Fuzzy Tummy Cameo
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    2. 7/28/2011 1:37 PM Will wrote:
      Cool, a Ramsey Campbell reference. I like his books.
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      1. 8/3/2011 3:44 PM angelique_sp wrote:
        A fellow Ramsey Campbell fan?....you, good sir, Rock
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  • 7/28/2011 2:02 AM Brundlefly wrote:
    In an old video guide I have, the listed retail price for this movie was 30 bucks. If I recall, videohound gave it two bones
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  • 7/28/2011 2:03 AM A Philosopher wrote:
    Of all the films about necrophilia I've seen, I remember this one being the most schmaltzy. The blood-cumming scene was much better here than in Antichrist...I guess I can give it that.
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  • 7/28/2011 2:05 AM oneyedjohn wrote:
    Congrats Brad, this episode made me the most nauseous out of all of the others combined. Excluding Salo, of course. Funny video as allows.
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  • 7/28/2011 2:10 AM Lex wrote:
    Hi Jerrid!

    That was quite the movie...
    So, you know that the subtitles are fake, but do you know what they really said?
    Actually it was pretty boring stuff.
    For example in the scene with the couple in the car the man complains that they have to repeatedly stop at rest stops for the woman.

    Nice job Brad, the things you watch for us, amazing.
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  • 7/28/2011 2:17 AM kingedduke wrote:
    Jerrid's little intrusion made my day.
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  • 7/28/2011 2:21 AM karl wrote:
    best outtake ever
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  • 7/28/2011 2:29 AM David wrote:
    Great episode!

    Without knowing exactly what I was getting in to before watching this, I happened to be eating as I was watching...at least I still kept my appetite.
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  • 7/28/2011 2:35 AM Blubbel wrote:
    Just to translate the german, for those who don't speak it and want to enjoy the same pleasure es our beloved snob...
    Car szene: "If you have to take a piss in the next 10 minutes, I won't le you get in the car again"
    "Oh my God ..."

    By the way: Last szene mady my fucking day
    "Get the streetmap"
    The sign is: "Joe's Cleaningaction" or "Joe's Cleanings"
    Television News: "Without speculations we can asume that reaction like those can be caused by other things like dirt..."
    In the Van: "So people, work is over! And Rob, you have to take 'him' away, you know."
    Stairs: not really understandable, even for a German but things like "Now go up!" and "Move your ass!"
    Boss: "I have to do as my boss said. Go downstairs and take your papers."
    Betty in Bed: "I loved you from the first day, Hans, but I never expected you to love me back."
    Betty complaining: "You look like a wet sack, and I think, this is how you faced your boss! You stood there, staring at your feet and did not say a word!"
    Letter: "... don't want to sacrifice the best years of my life. Also I took our friend as a good-bye-gift."
    Last scene: "He stinked like a pig and wanted it doggystyle."
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  • 7/28/2011 2:41 AM BooRat wrote:
    Ok that was fucked up! What the hell is wrong with Germen people!? You know you're screwed up when the Japanese have to re-edit your sick sick sex film!
    That eyeball scene made me gag and I normally got a strong stomach!
    This is one of those movies I'm sure Rob Zombie watched growing up as I'm sure the bunny fucking scene was the basis for the chicken fucking discussion in the Devil's Rejects!
    But I do gotta ask is there a real English release?

    And, I don't even want to know what sick crap Jerrid is doing with bread and wearing what look to be over sized children pajamas!
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    1. 7/28/2011 9:15 AM Rosebud wrote:
      The bunny doesn't get fucked in this movie, it gets slaughtered. And if you're curious - yes, it's a real bunny and yes it really gets killed. Buttgereit got a special permission to use this footage because the bunny was supposed to be slaughtered anyways. So - no influence on Rob Zombie here.

      Great review Brad, wanted to get my hands on this movie for quite a while, but it's expensive and hard to find. Even in Germany (where it's not banned for the simple reason that the people who are in charge of youth protection consider this movie to be "art" - wtf ^^)!
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      1. 7/28/2011 11:31 AM BooRat wrote:
        Ah Okay! I've never seen this movie before! that's cewl! I'm sure he might have still seen it as this is the kind of thing he'd watch and reference at some point in either his movies or music! For crying out load he references a movie called "Gay Wolf" in his animated comedy movie "El Superbeasto" with a scene of a werewolf getting killed with a silver dildo!
        If all it was was real bunny slaughter that's no big deal to me as I was raised as a hunter I've killed many many animals and had to butcher them. Some of the cutest animals too like squirrels, rabbits, raccoons, deer, and hogs. So, real animal death doesn't bother me especially if it's a food animal. I only hate it when it's something like a ct or dog.

        so this movie is near impossible to get?
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        1. 7/29/2011 9:34 PM Rosebud wrote:
          Hehe yeah, maybe Rob still saw this moive, I was just talking about direct influence to the scene you've mentioned.
          Okay, you being a hunter and all will probably save you from throwing up during all the animal-snuff scenes of the 70s and 80s Cannibal-movies - good for you =) I personally can't stand scenes like that.

          Impossible to get... I wouldn't say that. But it's impossible to get the movie for a reasonable price. The DVD costs between 30 and 90 bucks (no joke) and probably isn't worth all that cash. The only interesting thing the DVD has to offer is the documentary called "corpse fucking art" where director Jörg Buttgereit talks about how he came up with the idea and also what his intentions were. Funny little fact about Buttgereit - he also writes plays and audio dramas which are VERY different from his gory movies. At one point he was also involved in the production of a computer game which was never released. Would've been cool though, the character's "health bar" was his very own body - the more damage you take, the more flesh and guts you lose. Sick shit ^^
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    2. 7/28/2011 10:11 AM KrautRemo wrote:
      What is wrong with people anyway who make movies about killing people with lots of guts and blood? I guess nothing? Exploring the dark sides of human nature should be a part behind the motivation sometimes besides just to entertain. "Nekromantik" is an underground-movie. Not only because of its tiny budget. Standing maybe in the tradition of Cinema Of Transgression they wanted to show shocking things not in the usual and safe way but a little more like they maybe are. I remember that Buttgereit once said in an interview that he regrets the lack of underground-moviemaking in Germany. And that was actually what he tried to do here. Creating raw stuff that does not hold back or censors itself already in the making. Creating art no matter if it's ugly and unsettling. And also silly and funny sometimes, yes. He was very young when he did it. He went on with a couple of more films about difficult themes like suicide or serial-killers. Before that he did comedic short films which were more centered around classic horror-cinema and Godzilla-movies. So the sick stuff later was an intentional change in direction due to the rules of underground-cinema of the Eighties. He and his producer really tried to do something that was a little bit more ambitious within its cheap nature than the shit Schnaas crabbed out. And he became better.

      By the way, I hate animal-cruelty. The rabbit-scene is hard to watch. Still it's the usual killing of an animal by a breeder who does it every day. So it was not just done for the movie or that it was done by an actor. They only documented an every day-reality if you like. And it's hard for us because we just want to eat meat, not to see how it's done. Still I hate this scene. But it's not wrong that a movie shows that from time to time just to remember you. Still it's underground and not Hollywood, isn't it?

      I know that outside of Germany a lot of myths are built around these little flicks. It's a bit different here where horror-fans of course can read German articles, interviews and so on. So I just want to point out here: No real corpses were used, no cats were killed, no necrophiliacs were among the cast and also no living seals were butchered in "Nekromantik 2". There they just showed obduction-material of dead seals. I don't know why horror-fans always are jumping on those silly trains to blow all things out of proportions. I guess it's the magic of cinema. even here !

      Now that I know what the snob thinks of this movie I'm almost more curious to know what Brad thinks. I know they are different sometimes. I remember, being about one decade older than the snob, people of my age around the world were a bit more open to Buttgereit's stuff. But it seems it older it gets, the more obscure it becomes, the more it goes through hard times now, LOL. Cinema Of Transgression maybe dead now...
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      1. 7/28/2011 12:02 PM BooRat wrote:
        Wow you took what I said overly serious... NICE!!!
        Me, I'm completely use to blood guts and gore in film it doesn't bother me any more. I was raised when I was real little by an aunt that watched horror movies all the time and collected horror props, so yeah I was stuck watching gory and scary horror flicks in a house covered in fake skulls, jarred fetuses, rats, bats, severed limbs, and aliens... oh my!
        So movies depicting death and violence don't even bother me it's just when it comes to only certain things I get annoyed and pissed at best like I hate child killing(when it's suppose to be serious. now, the finial scene in Beware: Children At Play is Troma Schlock at best so it's passable) and needless death of lets say a pet just because the killer ain't killed nothing in 5 minutes and it's at the main character's house and we can't have the virginal girl die so lets just kill her kitten. As I mentioned above in my reply to another comment I was raised also by hunters and am completely use to real life blood and gore as I've been elbow deep in dead deer entrails so real animal death scene wouldn't bother me at all since I'm sure if it's an animal they eat locally like the monkeys in Cannibal Holocaust it wasn't going to go to waist. I'm not a PETA drone so seeing meat becoming meat don't bother me. I took it from the Snob's comment in the review the scene showed the guy on the TV screwing the rabbit which would've just been an unnecessary WTF scene! It's like the "famous" New Born Porn scene from A Serbian Film except not as traumatizing but still pretty bad! Even though again I haven't seen either of these movies, but got no real desire until now to see this one as from what I've hear from all the above and below that it's not as bad as hinted in the actual video. The Serbian Film I still don't want to see as I'm sure you'd be on an FBI watch list just for renting it! And, I normally intentionally go out my way to find and own movies and books that offend or piss people off. I love controversial material. Especially if it's banned in some countries.

        So this movie is to Germany as Cannibal Holocaust is to Italy? I n the department that people think it's all real? CEEEWWL!

        Well, from what I've learned of Mr. Jones here is if the Snob hates it he really loves it. And that's why he's never Snobbed some film he's been asked as he either really really hates it or it'd be something keeping in character the Snob wold actually like! Kind of confusing! Ain't it?
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  • 7/28/2011 2:41 AM Eden wrote:
    Thanks, great review, now I can go to sleep.
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    1. 7/28/2011 2:47 AM BooRat wrote:
      Enjoy your nightmares/wet dreams!
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  • 7/28/2011 2:48 AM Grendle1853 wrote:
    That one image will haunt my nightmares for weeks to come...damn it Jerrid put a shirt on! And the corpse fucking was horrific as well.
    This movie was fucked up even for the movies you normally review Brad, your starting to get into the Oancitizen and Hagan territory, which makes you a braver man than I.
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    1. 7/28/2011 10:52 AM Zack wrote:
      I'm sorry, the SNOB is going into Oancitizen territiry?? Oancitizen has based his entire series on Brad's earlier reviews, especially his Salo review.
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  • 7/28/2011 3:01 AM David Wev wrote:
    that film nearly made me vomit!! D:
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  • 7/28/2011 3:44 AM Rob wrote:
    Nothing like eating ravioli at 1:30am while watching two people ride a corpse. Also, hi Jerrid.
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  • 7/28/2011 3:59 AM Alkami wrote:
    Your complaint that the movie stopped being artsy and turned into 'Violent Shit' sums up the entire movie. It kinda-sorta works as an exploration of Necrophilia - but not really.
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  • 7/28/2011 4:24 AM Velocity in Stereo wrote:
    I dunno, but Jerrid looks pretty hot with no shirt.
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  • 7/28/2011 4:25 AM Nils B-Film wrote:
    Hahaha... Excelent review of one of my favorite films. The "subtitles" gag made me laugh out a lot. Your snob-conflict was good too, trying to decide on the schitzofrenic tone of this one. Great job!
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  • 7/28/2011 4:31 AM Turcano wrote:
    Why does that music remind me of "Playing with the Boys?"

    Also, caterpillar.
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  • 7/28/2011 4:53 AM Dr_Mabuse wrote:
    For Christ's sake! I don't care what a film is about! Nothing deserves to be the victim of comedy subtitles! By the way, I know a girl who teaches film at Manchester uni, who is writing a fucking book about German underground movies. They're hard enough to sit through!
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  • 7/28/2011 5:14 AM Doctor wrote:
    When you closed your eyes and imagined the birds... I swore that it was going to transition to E.T.
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    1. 7/28/2011 12:48 PM Yogurt wrote:
      I thought it was a clip from "Birdemic: Shock and Terror."
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  • 7/28/2011 5:28 AM CodyCodafer wrote:
    brad did you give permission to a guy named cinemasnobarchive on youtube to post your reviews on there
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    1. 7/28/2011 11:24 AM Brad wrote:
      No I didn't. I've asked him nicely to please take down my videos, but he keeps ignoring me.
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      1. 7/28/2011 3:29 PM Wayne wrote:
        Aaaaaand his accounts gone!
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  • 7/28/2011 5:42 AM Kaati wrote:
    Best cameo ever xD

    At least they didn't comedy-dub the movie. I bet if they had, they had made the corpse talk!

    BTW: Should I be worried if I didn't find the scenes horrible, but just funny?
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  • 7/28/2011 5:57 AM NocturnalDW wrote:
    Call me sick bitch but I love this movie, an other Jörg Buttgereit моvies too (except Schramm, it's boring shit)
    *Big hugs from Ukraine*
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  • 7/28/2011 6:33 AM Death Snob -The Snob that eats wrote:
    Ha ha Now that you've done both movies from Schnaas and Butergriet I guess Olaf Ittenbach is next?
    He's actually a half-decent film maker compared to Andy and Jürg, but there is probably still some turds in his filmography worthy of a snobbing.
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  • 7/28/2011 6:56 AM erni79 wrote:
    What the hell!? ^^

    the subtitles are double funny when you actually understand what they're really saying

    nice one Brad, now i feel sick ^^
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  • 7/28/2011 7:01 AM Randolph wrote:
    "In Soviet Russia, dead have sex with YOU!"
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  • 7/28/2011 7:23 AM Nightfall wrote:
    I'm not an expert in this. But if she replace the corpse's dick with a lead pipe...doesn't that defeat the purpose of being a necrophiliac?
    I think real necros would call her a poser :p
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  • 7/28/2011 7:32 AM Trixie1927 wrote:
    After being desensitized by every piece of American gore I could find at the time, I was fortunate (not being sarcastic) enough to find this movie when I was 16 in a mom and pop video store and still have a VHS copy. It was great to show at parties - I was the only one who could eat while watching it. I immediately noticed the fake subtitles and thinks it detracts from the film ALLOT. The premise is over the top as it is, you don't have to drill it in our heads by adding silly subtitles.

    In the documentary "Corpse Fucking Art" Buttgereit explains that the eyeball our hero Rob is sucking on is a pig's eyeball that's been sitting around for a few days - and he had to do several takes of that scene. I love the Germans (you sick bastards). Keep up the good work!
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  • 7/28/2011 7:50 AM Alex wrote:
    Great review Brad. The subtitles had me rolling. I thought you were going to play up the Art-House aspects of the film more, like your Death Bed review but I thought you did a fine job on riffing on it and at the same time praising some of it's visuals. For a first time feature it is damn good, and Buttgereit's Schramm and Nekormantik 2 are amazing pictures. Der Todesking is very good too, but I have to be in just right the frame of mind to get it.

    Also, that's cool that Jerrid really is your neighbor.
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  • 7/28/2011 8:03 AM ClemensTheMenace wrote:
    FAHRVERGNÜGEN!?! Is there even a proper translation into english for this word? Brad please speak more german the next time you review a german movie. Bet it would be funny as hell.
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  • 7/28/2011 8:09 AM Colicub wrote:
    Der Todesking is probably my favourite of Buttgereit's films.
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  • 7/28/2011 8:26 AM Someone wrote:
    The stinger was hilarious to me , simply because I instantly recognized Jerrid's hairy belly from "Friends with Benefits" midnight showing !
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  • 7/28/2011 8:32 AM Pixel Justice wrote:
    I have never EVER felt so bad.. for still having my Pog collection LOL wow.. well.. I'm off to collect body parts then..
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  • 7/28/2011 8:53 AM jaltesorensen wrote:
    I love these horror/slasher movies..... but i still miss the good old exploitation days of Turkish Star Wars and Pierre Kirby week
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  • 7/28/2011 9:35 AM The Carpenter wrote:
    Did Jerrid asked if he could grab some brad? Probably seen to much boys gone wild...
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  • 7/28/2011 10:22 AM some asshole wrote:
    this movie really sucks. the end is hilarious, but the rest is just garbage.

    Watch "Aftermath" instead. way better.
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  • 7/28/2011 10:24 AM riftwolf wrote:
    After the slapstick of Caligula 2, this is a pretty jarring transition to German underground. This episode didn't really bring the laughs as much, I don't think I'll be watching this episode again. But highlighting a controversial film is necessary, so I'd rank this alongside Cannibal Holocaust and Pink Flamingoes as an 'important' episode rather than a 'funny' one.
    BTW, is it just me who gets annoyed with the confusion between the words 'necromantic' and 'necrophiliac'? I got into so much trouble playing Heretic because of this...
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  • 7/28/2011 10:39 AM Bertramn wrote:
    I am german.
    Believe me when i say the following:
    Nothing said in the reviewed parts of this movie has the slightest thing to do with corpsefucking.
    Thats kind of strange considering the title and the strange scenes INVOLVING corpsefucking.
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  • 7/28/2011 10:54 AM The King of Thessaly wrote:
    Well- that last few minutes was especially golden.
    *whispers* -That's the joke...
    As well as a real-life cameo! Were those Cars 2 pajama-pants Jerrid had on?

    All that PLUS a Pog joke AND necrophilia? We'll, my day is over now... I may as well go to bed because nothing better is going to happen today.
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  • 7/28/2011 10:55 AM AniNerd wrote:
    Wow,Germans really are the the Perverted Nation of all.Japan has some kinky stuff too,but GERMANS had done So munch kinky porn

    I Am somehow Intrested Seing this for some reasons.
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  • 7/28/2011 10:58 AM Steven P. or Dane wrote:
    Nice timing Jarad. I think i'll just say that this film can stay in the dollar bin of the local porn store. Nice review, glad I was listening instead of watching because I was eating. hehe.
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    1. 7/29/2011 8:37 AM Bob Joe McGillicutty wrote:
      This one actually goes for a LOT of money in the online (and probably offline) marketplace nowadays.
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  • 7/28/2011 11:28 AM EnderWhere wrote:
    What was on the wall that had to be blacked out? I imagine a dirty, old, dead wang, or a similar set of sweater meat, but I'm curious now. And that's why censorship fails.
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  • 7/28/2011 11:29 AM Albert C wrote:
    Wow, this is without a doubt the most disturbing movie I have ever seen you Snob on here!!! This almost makes Blood-Sucking Freaks (the previous title-holder in my opinion) seem like a children's movie! Hey, a good alternate title for this movie could be "Corpse-Fucking Freaks"!!! LOL
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  • 7/28/2011 12:43 PM Alexa wrote:
    I remember pogs, almost every kid in my neighborhood had an extensive collection though once 2000 hit everyone seemed to forget about them. Nice, Snob.
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  • 7/28/2011 12:45 PM Randolph wrote:
    I thought the note she left was clear. Once you go pipe, you never go ripe. She was done with corpses but just to take away her boyfriend's Meat RealDoll, she took the corpse with her.
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  • 7/28/2011 12:46 PM pferor wrote:
    I knew it!.... In America, neighbors came in and take your food, just like in Family Matters or Seinfeld.

    Either you have to buy double supplies, or you can life with your neighbor's food!

    Amazing!
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  • 7/28/2011 12:54 PM Robert Denby wrote:
    Sergio Leone's "Duck You Sucker" aka "Fistful of Dynamite" starts with a quote, then goes to a shot of Rod Steiger pissing on an anthill. Classy!
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  • 7/28/2011 1:23 PM Ferdie Fox wrote:
    "I'm sorry, the SNOB is going into Oancitizen territiry?? Oancitizen has based his entire series on Brad's earlier reviews, especially his Salo review."

    Actually, since Brad has been in communicaion with Kyle a.k.a. Oancitizen, I assume he doesn't consider him TOO derivative!
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    1. 7/28/2011 5:18 PM Jackie Chiles wrote:
      But the original comment, the Brad was going into Oancitizen territory, is completely and utterly asinine. Brad was doing videos like this when Oancitizen was in diapers.
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      1. 7/29/2011 8:39 AM Bob Joe McGillicutty wrote:
        For 20 years???

        And please stop these asinine comparisons, Cinema Snob and OanCitizen are NOTHING ALIKE
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        1. 7/29/2011 12:56 PM Christopher wrote:
          Except that "Cinema Snob Jr" has openly admitted to ripping off Brad's personality.
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          1. 7/30/2011 10:49 AM Ferdie Fox wrote:
            "Except that "Cinema Snob Jr" has openly admitted to ripping off Brad's personality."

            Have you considered the possibilty that someone pretending to be Oancitizen made that comment? It's quite easy to do. In fact, I'll do it right now.
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            1. 7/30/2011 10:52 AM Kyle a.k.a Oancitizen wrote:
              I ripped off the Cinema Snob.
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              1. 7/30/2011 10:57 AM Ferdie Fox wrote:
                There, you see. Simple as that. I just typed in "Kyle a.k.a. Oancitizen" in the name box and typed in that self-slandering message.
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              2. 7/30/2011 10:01 PM Zack wrote:
                Kyle Kallgren sucks. I don't care if he's admitted it or not, he still stole the snob's personality.
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                1. 7/31/2011 1:02 PM Ferdie Fox wrote:
                  Y'know, Zach, I'm not just not going to bother. This is not the appropriate place to go into a deep discussion in the matter.
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  • 7/28/2011 2:39 PM Marco wrote:
    One great review with the best outtake evaaaaaaaaaaaaar.

    Go Brad go!
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  • 7/28/2011 2:42 PM Jeremy wrote:
    I saw this movie years ago and hated it. It was before I saw Manos but a the time it was the most boring movie I've seen until I rented May. At least The Snob made it interesting. I'll say one thing, at least this movie had gore, so many mainstream horror movies nowadays focus on lots of off screen torture and showing as little violence as possible.

    Also on the topic of corpse fucking, too bad The Necro Files came out in 1997 since that movie actually got it right, but it's 2 years after the Cinema Snob's cut off point. I think if you're going to make a sleazy gore movie then make it as sleazy as you can and don't try to masquerade as an art film when it's just Violent S*** with a few artsy shots edited in.
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  • 7/28/2011 2:50 PM Dominic wrote:
    Gah, the one video I won't be able to watch. For whatever reason, I felt sick barely 5 minutes into the video. Curse my own squeamishness.
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  • 7/28/2011 3:12 PM ElizablethPulp wrote:
    great review! what an insane film! @_@ I was in a bad mood but this review cheered me up! and the bit at the end? XDD really funny!
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  • 7/28/2011 3:22 PM Doriangray21 wrote:
    gross... still... not quite as fucked up as"Dead Girl" IMHO
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  • 7/28/2011 3:34 PM Ralok wrote:
    dude . .. . can you detox by reviewing something like josh kirby time warrior

    or prehysteria or something

    christ dude . . . . that was . . . not right
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  • 7/28/2011 3:48 PM Jonathan wrote:
    I didn't like this one, and it's the first and only one I didn't like. You are great, but the movies is just too much. I didn't think I would ever say that.
    Hey, I bought Paranoia and I really liked it. Whats your next release?
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  • 7/28/2011 3:56 PM Ultramanmattia wrote:
    9:18 is the music from Night Of Horror.
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  • 7/28/2011 5:24 PM JayRam wrote:
    Great review but, I just don't see the point of necrophilia. I mean who's going to fix the after-sex sandwich?
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  • 7/28/2011 7:55 PM Mitch wrote:
    Best Jerrid cameo ever
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  • 7/28/2011 7:59 PM Gozar wrote:
    uuuhhhh gross! Where did they find this movie? Ted Bundy's video collection?
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  • 7/28/2011 9:07 PM Tho wrote:
    I do not know if you know that, but i think it is an interestink fakt, this movie would have been illegal in germany if not for it beeing "art", germany is a bitch
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  • 7/28/2011 9:10 PM Gallooga Joe wrote:
    Yes, Nekromantik! I wish the DVDs weren't out of print and rediculously expensive
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  • 7/28/2011 9:23 PM The Movie Explorer wrote:
    I never learn, do I? I said, “Hey! Brad has a new video! I’ll watch it while eating dinner!” What is WRONG with me?

    Those subtitles have to be the most pathetic attempt to be funny I’ve ever seen. The subtitles in the original Naked Killer were funnier and they weren’t even trying to be! It’s like they said, “we don’t understand German, but the movie’s about corpse-fucking. Hey, let’s make EVERY LINE OF DIALOGUE about corpse-fucking!” And “Fahrvergnügen”? Seriously? Well then, how appropriate to beat THAT dead corpse in a movie all about corpses! Is there a version of this with ACCURATE subtitles?
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    1. 7/29/2011 3:59 AM Dan wrote:
      Uh, Brad made those himself. It's sort of an ongoing joke. He's done that before on foreign movies, like the "Italian Batman" episode and the "Porno Holocaust" episode.
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      1. 7/30/2011 8:27 PM The Movie Explorer wrote:
        Ah, well...*ahem!*

        I wish there was some way to respond here that would NOT make me look like a complete idiot, but I fear it’s too late now. Seriously, I’m NOT one of those internet jackasses who thinks that my opinion is the Word Of God. But seriously, I thought the subtitles were made by the same people responsible for the dubbing in the Violent* Shit movies. I guess that was the point.

        Next topic of conversation: Nekromantik 2. Will Brad be tackling this? And how can it possibly top the original? I mean, we’ve already had French kissing an eyeball!

        *mistyped as Violet Shit. That's a different movie entirely.
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        1. 7/30/2011 9:08 PM KrautRemo wrote:
          My question is rather, why is everything always just about topping disgusting stuff? With "Nekromantik 2", as far as I remember, Buttgereit tried something else. The movie is lets say more grown up and tries a more serious approach to the subject. The whole film would bore most of todays audiences to death except maybe for the very last moment, lol. The sad thing is that the makers didn't just want to film disgusting stuff, but horror-fans almost always expect a test of courage when it comes to these movies. Can I watch this? Is it boring for me? What can I take? Buttgereit and his writer put more thought into it as just that. Did they succeed? I don't know. But at least they tried. Again, it's underground-cinema. It is about trying things and not just to top everything that was nasty before and walking paths that are safe. Watch "Der Todesking". It's pretty tame and not about satisfying gorehounds at all. Buttgereit surely is not like Schnaas or Eli Roth, who are just interested in delivering the goods. He rather wanted to explore his subjects than just exploiting them. It's not Splatter in my book. So don't expect to be pleased with "Nekro 2" if you ever watch it!
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  • 7/28/2011 9:39 PM Annoyed Grunt wrote:
    Great, I just happened to be eating meatballs for dinner during the eyeball part. That's the first time in a decade I felt like vomiting during a horror movie.
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  • 7/28/2011 10:00 PM Evilsbane wrote:
    Well Brad..congrats, up until now no image on screen has EVER made me want to puke, that eye...AH GODDAMN YOU SIR.
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  • 7/28/2011 10:24 PM SpazOutLoud wrote:
    I love how Jerrid's reaction to you filming is like if he walked in on you naked. haha "oh...sorry..." haha
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  • 7/28/2011 10:31 PM ahedlund wrote:
    I've been waiting for you to review this one. Nicely done, Brad!

    I like the outtake with Jerrid at the end. "Hey man, can I get some bread?"
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  • 7/28/2011 10:58 PM bloop wrote:
    i made a mistake eating my night time snack when i started watching this...
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  • 7/28/2011 11:54 PM Castles wrote:
    I have the soundtrack for Nekro 1/2 and The Death King, its actually very good.
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  • 7/28/2011 11:59 PM Masamune wrote:
    My favorite part was the cameo from jareds stomach
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  • 7/29/2011 12:31 AM THOOM wrote:
    WTF? Jerrid barely knocks on the door, then, without waiting for a response, just waltzes into your home? You guys' life really is like an 80s sitcom!
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  • 7/29/2011 12:44 AM Skibz wrote:
    I owned a DVD copy of 'Nekromantik' once...put it up on eBay and ended up selling it for $90. That's the only way that movie ever benefited me.
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    1. 7/29/2011 3:21 AM Albert C wrote:
      Would it be ironic and funny if the copy you sold on eBay was the same copy that Brad got and used for this review?
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      1. 7/29/2011 1:19 PM Skibz wrote:
        I hope not, because then I'd feel compelled to return the money to compensate for his mental anguish.
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  • 7/29/2011 12:56 AM Skibz wrote:
    ...although, after watching the review, I'm starting to regret I didn't keep my DVD copy. I don't know if I should be worried that I think that...
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  • 7/29/2011 1:11 AM Squall Lee wrote:
    nice cameo by Jarred and his hairy gut.
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  • 7/29/2011 1:58 AM Handsome Pete wrote:
    I like to eat dinner while watching these types of videos, but I very quickly realized that was not going to work for the Snob's stuff, like most people I'm guessing.
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  • 7/29/2011 2:04 AM Nicole wrote:
    Japanese edit? I call bullshit. Japan gave us Takashi Miike. Have you seen his film, Audition? Or Visitor Q? He puts Germany to shame.
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    1. 7/30/2011 10:12 AM TrangleC wrote:
      He puts Germany to shame? What kind of logic is that? A hand full of weirdos making shitty movies who happen to be German are not "Germany". Besides, there are a few good German filmmakers too, you know, but the Cinema Snob is rather unlikely to review a Werner Herzog, Rainer Fassbinder or Volker Schlondorff movie.
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  • 7/29/2011 3:29 AM Nate wrote:
    Im not sure what im gonna have a harder time getting out of my head ............ the corpse fucking or jerrids stomache hair
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  • 7/29/2011 4:40 AM Kbomb13 wrote:
    Haha, I fucking love Jared popping up in the end.
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  • 7/29/2011 4:58 AM The Soapmaker wrote:
    Damn it Snob, that scene with the eye made me choke on my precious naan.
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  • 7/29/2011 6:20 AM Stefan wrote:
    Great review. I've watched Nekromantik during a weird films craze when I was 17 along with Takashi Miikes early successes (like Ichi, Visitor Q, Dead or Alive, Audition), Aftermath, Guinea Pig series and I wasn't really that shocked. I loved the soundtrack but actually what disturbed me was the scene in which the main character puts his cat in a bag and tosses it around and basically kicks the shit out of it. It's funny how we're totally desensitised when people get murdered on screen but when shit happens to an animal we cringe.

    Also I have a request. I'd like to see you do the Schaas turkey Nikos The Impaler ... by the way, it seems Andreas Schnaas, Tom Savini and Doug Bradley will be playing Nazis in the upcoming film The 4th Reich http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1456940/
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  • 7/29/2011 6:37 AM Bdolf Kitler wrote:
    The blond guy in the car who can later be seen with naked body. he is director jorg buttgerrit!
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  • 7/29/2011 9:52 AM Fabo wrote:
    [Germany]Was zur Hölle???

    What the Hell, this Translation! We think,there be a Accident. Translation Blabla bla Sandwich???? WHAT???
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  • 7/29/2011 10:48 AM glenn wrote:
    Jesus even corpses have a better sex life than married men.
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  • 7/29/2011 11:39 AM Homunculus wrote:
    Well, this is an interesting review from the Snob. He's done it all now: corpse fucking, piss takes, and artsy pieces in an exploitation film. Can't get any better than this
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  • 7/29/2011 11:54 AM Evan wrote:
    That got really weird at the end.
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  • 7/29/2011 12:26 PM Bumskopf wrote:
    Say Brad did you ever see Black Past? From our beloved german Olaf Ittenbach or maybe Premutos? I would even donate these movies if you would review them.
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  • 7/29/2011 12:27 PM Micarta wrote:
    Starting bread fund for Jerrid.
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  • 7/29/2011 1:16 PM KrautRemo wrote:
    Buttgereit went back now to the kind of stuff he did before NEKROMANTIK. Here is his latest work. It's a stage play put on film but not in a boring way, as the director also has done a couple of cheap but funny flicks before that. Just to show you that this guy is not all into weird and sick shit. He went from funny to sick and is now back into funny again. Though I would love to see some more serious work from him in the future. Not necessarily as nasty as in his earlier days, but serious.

    Here a Trailer of Buttgereit's
    CAPTAIN BERLIN Vs. HITLER:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVd2qV2Csis

    Sadly it's quite expensive. I guess due to a small number of releases as it is actually a stage play as I mentioned.
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  • 7/29/2011 6:54 PM glenn wrote:
    I've got to say it. If someone was going to do rude things to your rotting carcass you could do a lot worse than Betty.
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  • 7/30/2011 1:32 AM Ranchoth wrote:
    I once got "Nekromantik 2" via Netflix...like this one, it had plenty of deteriorating cadavers, unattractive people having sex with said cadavers, and at least one cute furry mammal being dissected, all in graphic detail.

    It was also incredibly boring. In fact, combined with a Phillip Glass-esque violin score constantly sawing away, it was so boring it was actually relaxing.

    Seriously, I fell asleep twice trying to watch that thing. And, frankly, I think that was actually the best sleep I've ever had...didn't even have any weird dreams. It was like listening to the rain pattering on your roof.

    It's a special kind of failure when your corpse-sex filled gore flik could be reliably used to put colicy infants to sleep.
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  • 7/30/2011 4:50 AM rebe wrote:
    It kind of reminded me of Emily the Corpse Bride (I like the detail that they both have the eye popping out).

    And it now makes me feel real sick that I ever found her sexy.
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  • 7/30/2011 1:45 PM House Of Towski wrote:
    Can I borrow some bread?
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  • 7/30/2011 2:12 PM Vincent wrote:
    Blast. Even though I'm a straight guy, your voice almost turn me on.

    Ho, you do a great job by the way. Keep it up !
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  • 7/31/2011 1:35 AM Kevin wrote:
    Brad and Jerrid Fuck a Corpse
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  • 7/31/2011 4:30 AM trevanian wrote:
    This ia one of the best episodes. I have to watch this one day!
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  • 7/31/2011 5:56 AM KrautRemo wrote:
    Hey, I've found a nice little gem on YouTube. Joerg Buttgereit in the role of Captain Berlin himself. He did it in 1982 and its basically him and his friends goofing around with their Super 8-camera, which they did a couple of times before making NEKROMANTIK. The story (if you like) behind the trailer I've posted somewhere above: "Captain Berlin Vs. Hitler". Actually I would love to see a match Kung Tai Ted Vs. Captain Berlin! I hope you enjoy. Beautiful 80ies plastic-music as well...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLmHqHlk8jA
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  • 7/31/2011 7:41 AM SwA wrote:
    German censors are hypocrats.
    I mean, it's fuckin impossible to get an uncut version of first two parts of the Evil Dead series. These movies were banned over here, and I think they still are. Nekromantik on the other hand didn't even start controversial discussions until 1991 when the second movie was released. And even then, those movies weren't banned.
    Why? Because the Nekromantik movies are artsy. Yeah, right.
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  • 8/1/2011 1:55 PM Tom Badguy wrote:
    "Once you go pipe, you never go ripe." That made me laugh.
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  • 8/2/2011 6:55 AM Martin wrote:
    I got the first VHS print of this movie. But I do want it on DVD as well. I liked your review of it.

    Now go on and review The Bride of Frank!
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  • 8/2/2011 10:24 PM Timerider wrote:
    I said it before and I'll say it again, I REALLY need to stop watching these while eating.
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  • 8/2/2011 10:51 PM OUGH wrote:
    This movie was beyond disgusting. I now feel a stomach ache coming on.
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  • 8/3/2011 7:25 AM LeakyFlask wrote:
    You know, the beautiful piano music accompanying a less-than-pleasant sex act sure reminds me of this one video that seems to be fairly popular with the young'uns of the internet.
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  • 8/5/2011 7:14 PM Platten wrote:
    Oh my God - it's so terrible, so awfull!

    Well, I don't mean the film - I mean the subtitles.

    Did you do put them there yourself Mr.Snob?
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  • 8/6/2011 5:15 PM neonfox3 wrote:
    Those pajamas that Jerrid was wearing are the same ones from "Brad and Jerrid Play Warcraft".
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  • 8/8/2011 8:59 AM jimi wrote:
    In real life attractive women will have average looking boyfriends but only in movies will attractive women have psychotic and eccentric boyfriends with sick lifestyles.
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  • 8/8/2011 3:56 PM jackson wrote:
    I'm sorry Brad, but you're relationship with Jerrid could not possibly get anymore obvious. After a movie about necrophilia, the only thing left to offend would be, 2 girls 1 cup; the movie.
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  • 8/11/2011 4:06 AM Ville wrote:
    I was eating breakfast while watching this video. Even tough I have a strong stomach I lost my appetite thank you very much!
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  • 1/6/2012 10:48 AM Dr. Salo wrote:
    The beautiful Nekromantik music belongs with a video montage of Jerrid, I believe.
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  • 2/10/2012 4:52 PM Tom S. Jaeger wrote:
    Love Ur Videos! And.. iam from germany and THE SUBBTITTLES...telling a complete other story. In not one single shot they are right... AND NO not all germans are gros nasty pervertet Corpse fuckers! xD
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  • 3/19/2012 5:51 PM Tom S. Jaeger wrote:
    AND YES... now i watched the video to the end and feel very stupid. thank u very much.
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