Midnight Screenings: "Prometheus" and "Madagascar 3: Europe's Most Wanted"
First, we check out Ridley Scott's "Prometheus."
Then Jake and Irving finally reunite for "Madagascar 3."
Then Jake and Irving finally reunite for "Madagascar 3."
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Midnight Screenings: "Prometheus" and "Madagascar 3: Europe's Most Wanted"
OH BOY
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The more I see Madagascar 3 trailers and teasers, the more I want a genocide of rainbow wigs.
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Looks like Madagascar was great
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Perfect image caption for Irving and Jake.
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According to goggle, the song is a parody of iconic French songstress Edith Piaf's famous song, "Non, je ne regrette rien." (No, I regret nothing.) Does that help?
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If you ever watched Inception, you'll definitely recognize it.
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I thought Prometheus was all right. Just the ending really pissed me off.
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I got to see Prometheus a week ago, and... yeah, not a fan. Even as a standalone film, I found that, although the set design and acting were fantastic, the whole thing left me pretty cold. It felt really frustrating too because I LOVED the first 15 minute of this, but then, as it went on, nothing really grabbed me. I found the pacing to be awkward, I found that most plot points were dropped halfway through, I felt a lack of tension, among other things.
Indeed, it doesn't answer everything, and I'm not expecting to be spoon-fed bits of info. Still, what little we were given wasn't enough to keep me hooked in the long-run. It wasn't an intelligent or thought-provoking film in any way to me. I... really can't compare it to any of the movies you listed for that reason. Blade Runner? 2001? I actually -liked- those.
Also there is so much that felt like it made no sense when looking at this from a worldbuilding standpoint?
Man, I really wanted to love this movie... but nah. 8c
((SPOILERish right here))
Can I just say that the whole ~~~~FORESHADOWING~~~~ with Shaw talking about not being able to get pregnant really made me groan. The conversation itself, what follows... yeah. That made me way uncomfortable and not in a good way. I think that may be one reason why I just kinda wound up hating this thing.
Also vaginas. We get it. Vaginas are ~~~spooky~~~ and ~~~alien~~~. Now please stop.
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I haven't heard about Prometheus. No one's talking about it where I live & there haven't been any commercials.
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((SPOILER DON'T READ IF YOU WANT TO WATCH THIS MOVIE))
The whole old man Wayland thing (atrocious elderly make up by the way) just felt completely flat and honestly how was Charlize Theron being revealed as his daughter relevant to anything that happened before or after its stated?
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It explained why she was there. To see this thing through, to see if her father fails and dies so she can get hold of Weyland Corporation. Which was stupid, but it is still a "reason".
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Of course, it makes the whole "surgery robot only works on men" thing only more stupid. Apparently the asshole cares so little about his daughter he didn't bother to spring for a robot that could handle both sexes. "Ah, she's just my daughter, fuck her if she gets hurt, I save 20 bucks, that's the important part. Male-only surgical robot!"
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Its not relevant to the story though.
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I would have gone in the life pod with Charlize. Floating around in space and stuff, she'd probably get bored and I figure I'd have a shot.
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Hate to sound Nickpicky but Fassbender is Irish/German not British.
I feel bad typing that but our little country does like to keep track of it's own....
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Well, if you're going to be nitpicky I'm going to call fair game and hit you. Fassbender is NORTHERN Irish/German, Northern Ireland is part of the United Kingdom and the word used to describe a citizen of the United Kingdom is "British." So, while he is not entirely British, he is at least half-British by birth. Additionally, he lives in London, which is most certainly British territory...though, to be fair, I don't know if he has English citizenship or not.
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I pity you Jake
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I think @Irving was thinking of Mussolini there (strung up on piano wire), Stalin died of a heart attack...
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I think some people are going into Prometheus with a ridiculous "if it's not a masterpiece, it sucks" attitude. You know, sometimes movies are just very very good.
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Yeah, I second that. And sometimes movies are just kinda good and its ok, too, especially considering the Blockbusters of recent years.
I must say, though im really not into Exploitation or Horror movies, when it comes to mainstream stuff or classics I feel we have a simular taste. I loved Snow White atH too, for example. And listening to Radiodrome made me aware of several movies i ended up really liking, so thank you for that!
I will def check out Prometheus myself, but it will take some weeks since all movie releases for June are pushed back over here because the European Football (Soccer) Championships started today and movie companies know better than trying to competet with that.
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I really don't understand your reasoning. I went into this with a "wow I am going to love the hell out of this for sure" attitude, and well... nope.
I love a ton of flawed movies, and there are some movies I love purely for their design aspects despite having like... shit stories. That being said, I can also find a movie to be well-made and still dislike it for whatever reason. I wouldn't think less of anyone who liked it, but... I just don't really get what there is to like in the first place. What's good or bad is subjective anyway. Well... okay, maybe not, but I don't care. Opinions.
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I didn't say that "everyone" who doesn't like the movie has that attitude. What I'm saying is that there are PLENTY of people out there who are going to rage when they see the movie and it didn't fall into their expectation of "instant classic" or "instant masterpiece." And because of that they're going to nitpick the living shit out of it, when there's no way they would have done that had the movie come out only 2 years after the original instead of 30+ years. Again, I'm not saying everyone is like that, but some are. You're talking to the guy who co-hosts a show with Josh Hadley. It's ok to just simply "like" a movie.
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I don't think anyone expected it to be a masterpiece, or at last, another "good alien movie". I think everyone who didn't like it had problem with the trailers and the movie itself starting out looking as if it had aspirations to be "2001: A Space Odyssey" or an interesting "Solaris" and the last 45 minutes devolving into "Jason X"
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That's true, it was really weird when the Space Jockey was pieced back together by ants, then was distracted by going into the virtual 70's hologram, which led to him going on a new planet to kill more fornicating teenager.
Wait, nothing that silly happened in this!! It was just a Space Jockey trying to kill some people. You know what else had something like that? Alien!!
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But this is not Alien. Look at the old trailers/commercials for Alien. There was no doubt that was horror movie in space. This movie tells you different: There are no aliens, the explorers are starry eyes looking for the origin of man. Ridley Scott kept telling people "this is not a prequel to aliens" The bright daylight scenes in a lot of the movie. No indication that [spoilers] the space jockeys are malevolent (unlike the trailers for Alien). So why in the fuck would we expect an ending like that, with the Space Jockey/Engineer coming at the Final Girl like Jack Torrance in the Shining? No I am not complaining, BUT this movie goes in one direction and veers off in another 3 quarters of the way through.
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Dude watch the trailer again. You clearly see the Space Jockey going after someone. I was expecting it the whole time because of the trailer, and I thought they did it well.
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I direct you to my review.
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And speaking of "if it's not a masterpiece, it sucks" - can't wait to see what people's reaction to The Dark Knight Rises will be.
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I have a feeling that will be underwhelming, even more than Prometheus.
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The problem with this movie, though, is that while the cinematography was good, the story had plot holes you could easily fly the Prometheus through.
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Give Prometheus ten years, it'll be a classic.
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It'll be a classic... just like Resurrection.
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wait....that thumbnail is flipping me the bird. FUCK YOU TOO, THUMBNAIL!!
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This is a dividing movie. Everyone will have a different opinion on this movie. Don't expect flame wars on the comment pages. JeremyJahn's review on YouTube put it brilliant.
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Brad, you checked a text mid-movie? For SHAME, sir. Please tell me you got up and walked out before you flicked on the spotlight that is a smartphone in a dark theater.
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I didn't check it, I felt it go off. I didn't actually look at the message till the movie was over.
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Heh, I thought Prometheus was good. Not really good though.
I mean, I liked pretty much everything about it, really, but... it was missing a little something. Hmm.
Looking forward to the sequel I guess.
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The movie seems interesting but speaking as somebody that did not like Alien but thought Aliens was great I’m on the fence about seeing it.
However those monsters did not look like vaginas, and if you think they do you need to have a talk with your wife and one of you should see a gynecologist either for clarification or medical help.
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Um, you haven't seen the movie yet. As someone who has, there are some vagina monsters in this movie.
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Everything looks like vaginas if you think long and hard enough about it.
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My god....Freud was right O_O everything is vaginas and dicks!
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I mostly like Prometheus with the exception of the ending in which..
--SPOILERS!--
The Space jockey got out of the chair only to be face-hugged & die on the floor of the escape-pod. What, did the alien drag him all the way back to the ship & stick him back into the chair or something? Because now the scene of him lying in the chair in Alien makes no sense!
--END SPOILERS!--
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It isn't the same planet.
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I think there might actually be more than one Space Jockey in the universe dude.
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I have mixed feelings about Prometheus. I am not 'quite' sure if I liked it. But I still think it is a good and interesting movie and that everyone should see it. David is a great character and is very fascinating. I think he is the main character of the movie. What I also like about it is that it makes you think. It asks questions without answering them. I like that, not to many movies do that. I really hope this gets a sequel, or at least another movie in the Alien universe!
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Ok, now I want to see...
Brad Tries Long John Silvers.
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I've seen it many times. It's really not that exciting.
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Dude, first comment on your site and I gotta say, you rock. And, as a first comment, I've got to suggest a review: Bikini Bandits. It's so many shades of awesome that I'm surprised nobody in TGWTG has reviewed it yet. It has Corey Feldman and the ninja bitches in it, how can it get more awesome?
P.S.: Love your reviews, keep 'em coming.
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To Brad: Idris Elba was also in Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance.
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Not sure what you guys were talking about but the trailers for Prometheus pretty much gave the whole movie away save for a big moment or two.
There really wasn't anything to Prometheus. Sure it was shot nice but it was built up to be something that it wasn't. Almost all the characters are not interesting (Idris Elba being criminally underused) and the movie structurally pretty much follows Alien with the addition of badly executed pretentiousness by the screenwriters.
The script is so thin that just by knowing that it's a story of people trying to find the supposed origin of man you've essentially spoiled it for yourself.
Don't think it was bad but I don't think it was great either. It was just okay for me.
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Re: your first sentence. I agree with you, I said the same thing in the review. A lot of people I was talking to said the movie was different than they thought it would be, but I thought the trailer was a good representation of the movie.
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45 seconds in: Irving is drunk off his ass. And it is a beautiful thing.
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I like Jake more than I like puddin. Well, except for maybe chocolate puddin, but I usually prefer things that are dark colored.
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It's like "you have to be the high to enjoy this movie" & by high, I mean "is he high" or does he just laugh at your misery?
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& unlike everyone else, I'm refurring to Madagascar 3.
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Ive just got in from seeing Prometheus and it was an ill-conceived overblown pile of shit. So many plot threads went nowhere and the part that you'd think would be the most important felt like it had the least amount of thought. The trailers were vague because the movie was vague. No particular threat, no real horror, no real action, no real suspense, characters had no development. It was 20 minutes shorter then the Avengers but it felt about 20 years longer. Oh and fuck the giant face hugger and its retarded genesis.
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((SPOILER DON'T READ IF YOU WANT TO WATCH PROMETHEUS))
The Alien Xenomorphs were created because a giant face hugger raped a space jockey, the face hugger came from a human host and was implanted by them having sex with someone who was infected with a weaponised virus designed to act as a rapid ebola virus...? Convoluted to say the least.
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I also got to see Prometheus last night with my younger brother Jesse as apart of my 26th birthday present from him and this was 1 day after he graduated from high school.
the film was amazing. it does has it flaws and sure it's not 100% perfect , but this is the kind of film that is rarely made anymore and it is worth every penny. this may not be the best film of the year , but it is one of the best films of this year and probably one of the best films that Ridley Scott has made in the past decade. I am not sure if Brad and his crew got the free poster , but our theater did. they gave away free limited edition posters where we saw it. I am a major Alien fan as I think Alien 1979 is a masterpiece and one of the best films ever made period. Aliens to me is over rated , Alien 3 is under rated , & Alien Resurrection is....meh. Prometheus is definatly a really , really good film and it deserves to be seen.
as for Madagascar 3...I honestly have no opinion for it , but I really do feel so sorry for you both. I really think you guys put up with a lot and I think it really does show the pain your forced to deal with. if I ever got my chance , I would gladly torture myself to review a bad film just to entertain you guys. I have seen shitty movies "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre The Next Generation" and I have seen trailers of 2 films that pisses me off to no end "Jack & Jill" & "Hellraiser Revelations". I really hope that if I asked you guys and everyone here at team snob what they think of my ideas for the films I am trying to make , I would be extremely glad and honored to have ALL of you guys and gals be able to review my films at the premiers. I think as a fan of this site and a character artist myself , I promise to make this happen one day. Jake and Irving , you deserve to see better films. and I do have such high respect for you guys. yes , it is one thing to have a film made for children. but it's another thing to make that kind of film bad. I dont know why Hollywood does what they tend to do , but it doesnt make it right nor does a kids film automatically qualifies it to be decent. for them to screw a film up like this that was made for kids...it is nerve wrecking.
everyone here at team snob , I just want to thank you all for the videos that you make and how much respect I have for you all. and it will be my deepest pleasure & such a high honor to hopefully one day have my movies reviewed by you all. keep this amazing site alive for many years to come , and always remember that you all are awesome in my book.
from a fan and character artist
Jason S - Maryland USA
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Prometheus review is almost unwatchable because of how annoying the backseat was..
"My time is precisous, how dare they insult me by asking to turn off my cell phone!!!"
or
"Whose Trayvon Martin, derp? I like turtles~~!"
Seems like he's trying to be even more snobby then the Cinema Snob unintentionaly lately, and it's getting old..
Thank god for Jake and Irving..
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Giger=vaginas
...and penises. Giger loves vaginas and penises.
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I can agree with that statement!
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Just a comment on Idris Elba for you guys; if you like him, check out a BBC series called Ultraviolet from the late 90's. He plays one of the main characters, and it's one of the last good Vampire-related pieces of media as far as I'm concerned.
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While Prometheus does well on the vaginas-front my biggest complaint is the lack of phallic imagery.
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Wait you dont remember the six foot long penises that swim up to those guys and one of them is then enticed to touch only for it to brutally murder him by shoving itself down his throat?
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Hey Brad,
In case you don't know, "Life of Pi" is a full movie coming out November 21st, 2012, and is actually based on a Bestselling Novel: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_of_Pi
Despite the novel being best selling, I'd avoid the film...it's being directed by Ang Lee
-JP
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Brad and I are both fans of the Ang Lee Hulk movie. Don't get me wrong it's FAR from perfect, but it was fun, and at the time one of the better comic book adaptations. But regardless of that Ang Lee is an amazing direction who for the most part makes fantastic movies. My trepidation is that Life of Pi is one of those books where what you couldn't translate to screen is just as important if not more so. But I'm still gonna see it. I love the book, i like the director...why not?
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Funny enough, Life of Pi was originally going to be directed by Jean-Pierre Jeunet, who directed Alien: Resurrection (Don't hold it against him, all of his other movies are fantastic)
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Alien: Resurrection wasn't horrible, and 100 times better than Alien to the Third Power.
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I definitely agree that Resurrection was a hell of a lot better than 3, but it was still a pretty poor film (though that was the fault of Whedon's script, and not Jeunet's direction) especially comparing it to Jeunet's previous film The City of Lost Children, which I really is one of the best sci-fi films of the '90s.
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Those last 10 or 15 seconds of the Madagascar review are just delightful.
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You guys seriously like the smell of Long John Silver's? When I was in highschool, I used to walk across the street to avoid their wafting stench.
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Also Brad, Idris Elba played the priest in Ghost Rider 2.
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Was Irving drunk or stoned?
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At the very least drunk since he mentions his Bad Movie Flask has been empty for the past hour. But yeah, for someone who claimed to have not thought the movie funny, he sure was giggly about it.
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Prometheus is really flawed, but you know what, I liked the movie, and as I said in the video it's the kind of big screen science fiction that we don't get a lot of now days. It's not a perfect film, but no one should go in to any movie expecting it to be a perfect film. Not even a lot of the classic science fiction films of the past are perfect.
There was stuff I didn't like about it, like the Guy Pearce scenes, and some of the movie was a little redundant (getting off the ship, going back on, etc) but I had a good time at this thing. It made me think, and asked some good questions, and I'm glad it didn't answer all of them and still left me thinking. That's what good science fiction should do. So I'm not going to waste my time harping harping harping, and nitpicking nitpicking a movie I really liked, because I think people should see it. I'd rather talk about the good things about it, and then mention the bad, instead of saying "I liked it" but spend 99% of the time complaining about it. I'll leave the nitpicking to the Snob =)
And at the end of the day, I'd much rather see a pretty good and thought provoking Ridley Scott "Prometheus" film than whatever the hell Paul W.S. was doing with the franchise. I'm cool with this movie not being perfect. Also, about the characters, I liked them a lot, but that's just a personal opinion.
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hey brad. I really liked this film as well. sure it does have it's fair share of flaws, but this kind of film is rare even for this day in age. and even if this film has flaws, there isnt that many films that has interesting ideas and they didnt throw it in your face or make it too much of an action film that many sci-fi and horror films tend to do.
and actually, there is some real science in Prometheus and even some actual science in Avatar. dont believe me? check out this article I just discovered on the topic of real astronamy : http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/columnist/vergano/story/2012-06-09/prometheus-science/55476010/1
this is a film where it does deserve the praise it gets, but dont expect it to be a masterpiece. and believe me, Paul W.S. Anderson hasnt made many decent films after his Resident Evil phase and the only exception of a good video game adaptation was Mortal Kombat. which on this topic I completely agree with Phelous on.
hell, if I have to torture myself by reviewing films such as Hellraiser Revelations just to make Brad, Jake, & Irving feel happy, then I would gladly do it. would be funny to see a fan review a bad film just to please the people who do this stuff for a living. it's a reward for their torture and their pain to have their fans experience the same pain and suffering that they go through. and you know what, they do work hard to review these films and they have done it for 4 years or more. and we either watch their videos or we comment and while some of us does have an actual opinion worth listening to, the majority of us doesnt have an internet series to record. and there are films that does get more praise then it deserves and if we didnt have our own opinion to give and if we didnt mention why films does suck, then we would agree with the standard norm even if the majority of the attention it gets is sometimes not for the right reasons.
there are good films and bad films, and every person's taste in films is different as we all have different standards. but there is a fine line between films that have legit reasons why they suck and liking a film because it sucks like a guilty pleasure. however, in this particular situation, there are strong examples for the reasons in what makes Prometheus a Psudo-Classic and why a kids film such as Madagascar 3 has obvious problems. the problems in Prometheus is minimal at best and it doesnt hurt the films reputation. the problems in Madagascar 3 is rather present on more than one occasion. there is such a thing to have a bad kids film get a lot of attention for the wrong reasons. and we do give reasons why these films have to be opinion based. all I'm saying is that there is so many films that exists , and there are a lot of films that either work or they dont. I think having an opinion is good if the opinion is decent and makes sense. and if you didnt like Brad's opinion in the first place , then what are you doing here at his site anyway?
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I want to make an animated gif of Jake's slow head-turn to Brian at the end, haha! "WTF is WRONG with you??!!"
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Please do this.
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Fuck Prometheus. I hate that fucking movie and the person I was with wanted to walk out. Two hour fucking cocktease. They explained nothing and had no story. They may not have explained things in Alien, but at least there was a complete contained story going on. I hope this bombs.
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To solve the light in the car problem most vehicles have way to turn the lights on to stay on by the light controls normally. In mine it turn the brightness of the controls all the way up to click. That probably how you did it last summer. It will as save you from having to open the doors to turn the cabin lights on.
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Geiger's art (Giger? I can't remember) is *all* penis and vagina riffs. Dude loves him some alien pleasure factories.
Also, holy shit do I love angry Jake and drunk-as-fuck Irving. They make a good team.
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"Prometheus" is the "Episode 1" for the Alien franchise.
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Ha! That is fucking asinine.
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Agreed. This movie is good. Episode I is not.
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Prometheus was insultingly dumb! It's more like the Battlefield Earth of the Alien franchise!
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There was NOTHING as over the top campy in Prometheus as there was in Battlefield Earth.
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I would say Resurrection is more the episode 1 as far as quality goes. Though I also find that I can't really argue with that.
Prometheus was insultingly bad. I can't recall ever walking out of a movie feeling so underwhelmed with a movie. It was just so painfully stupid and ONLY works if the characters are absolute morons.
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Dear Jake & Irving
Your pain is my entertainment
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I actually hate to be that guy, but Rapace is actually pronounced with the second A making an OH sound, similar to the O in 'horse'
It's hard to describe to a non-Swede, but most YouTube interviews with her pronounce it at some point.
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Is it me or has Brad been looking extremely happy lately...Hmm I wonder why.
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Prometheus
I can't wait to see this Sunday! I've heard good and bad things about it and I've read the wiki page on it so I basically know already what's going to happen, but there are still plenty of surprises left!
The plot is a lot different than I was expecting! From the earlier trailers and what little was given away I was thinking one of 2 possibilities! 1.) it was going to be a prequel to Scott's original cut of Alien in that how the xenomorph operated was a lot different than what was established in the sequel. In that it wasn't a hive species in how it reproduced, but it cocooned other species and turned them into eggs which needed another human to act as a host for the facehugger/chestburster which would've been fine and all, but I was more into the hive and queen set up. 2.) it was going to have a very similar setup as the 1st Aline in that the crew go down to that planet and find that temple/ship and bring one of those canisters on board their ship and it releases some sort of virus and slowly mutates 1-3 of the crewmembers into like proto-xenomorph and it be like Alien in that these people are trapped on a ship on a planet that is hostile with these mutant/alien hybrids trying to kill them and maybe at the end it's reviewed they're turning into either the Xenomorphs themselves. And, the Space Jockeys were just humans in weird looking space suit or the mutated crew-members! You know what I mean like a better version of those 90-00s space horror movies they made like Super Nova(2000) or those deep sea horror/sci-fi movies like Sphere(1998) or even like the Species franchise!
Well I can't wait to see this! Glad ya'll enjoyed it!
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Prometheus:
Ok I just saw this today finally and I'm sadden to report myself that I gotta agree with Spoony on this one more than Brad! The movie was visually beautiful and was very well made, but the story was very, VERY flawed!
And, I'm kind of even more sadden to say this movie kind of ruins the origin idea of the Xenomorphs for me. Mostly because it made more sense for them to be a race of hive-like creatures that breed by using host that they take a little DNA from to adapt for their new environment. If they were engineered by the Jockeys/Engineers I'd hoped it wouldn't have been so muddled and confusing. I was hoping if they did go the rout that the movie was set in the same universe as the Alien movie but wasn't about the Xenos that it be just hinted at that the Jockeys probably made more than one kind of weapon on that LV-426 planet, but apparently all they were doing on that planet was making those canisters of that Black-Alien-Death-Ooze! Which purpose and effects confused me... At one point it decays a person or alien away into a pool of pure genetic material and the next time we see it used it mutates worms into Alien-Penis-Cobras and a guy into a violent hydrocephalus superman with sperm strong enough it can impregnate a woman that is completely sterile!
The Jockeys were a disappointment too. I was hoping if anything we'd never get a clear look at their true faces to keep a little mystery about them or if they did show their faces they looked maybe more alien than just being 10ft tall with completely white skin. Also that brings up the opening of the movie. So they were the alien race that fertilized life onto Earth billions of years ago and all life here can be traced back to them having one guy drink the Black-Ooze and melting his genes down and releasing it into the water... so shouldn't that DNA test, they done on the ship in the movie and says that the Jockey's DNA matches humans, say it has genetic markers in-common with all life on Earth from amoebas to zebras and even plants!?
Also this movie had one flaw that really ruins a movie for me is none of the characters I liked... hell I out right hated most of them which isn't good as it makes me happy to see them die not shocked or scared. The only likable characters was David the android( I'm convince if the whole movie was just him taking care of the ship and his other daily jobs on-board the ship the 2 years it took them to get from Earth to LV-426 it'd been a better watch) and the Captain(and his likability began to wain when he suddenly goes from the guy that drives the ship and makes safety calls to the guy that's aware the company is evil and must be stopped like he's been a member of some group trying to stop them). The only other character they could've made that'd been more likable is if they got pet of some sort on board like another cat, a dog, or a monkey!
The worse character was Noomi Rapace's as she came off as selfriteous and terrible at her job.
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Prometheus:
Ok I just saw this today finally and I'm sadden to report myself that I gotta agree with Spoony on this one more than Brad! The movie was visually beautiful and was very well made, but the story was very, VERY flawed!
And, I'm kind of even more sadden to say this movie kind of ruins the origin idea of the Xenomorphs for me. Mostly because it made more sense for them to be a race of hive-like creatures that breed by using host that they take a little DNA from to adapt for their new environment. If they were engineered by the Jockeys/Engineers I'd hoped it wouldn't have been so muddled and confusing. I was hoping if they did go the rout that the movie was set in the same universe as the Alien movie but wasn't about the Xenos that it be just hinted at that the Jockeys probably made more than one kind of weapon on that LV-426 planet, but apparently all they were doing on that planet was making those canisters of that Black-Alien-Death-Ooze! Which purpose and effects confused me... At one point it decays a person or alien away into a pool of pure genetic material and the next time we see it used it mutates worms into Alien-Penis-Cobras and a guy into a violent hydrocephalus superman with sperm strong enough it can impregnate a woman that is completely sterile!
The Jockeys were a disappointment too. I was hoping if anything we'd never get a clear look at their true faces to keep a little mystery about them or if they did show their faces they looked maybe more alien than just being 10ft tall with completely white skin. Also that brings up the opening of the movie. So they were the alien race that fertilized life onto Earth billions of years ago and all life here can be traced back to them having one guy drink the Black-Ooze and melting his genes down and releasing it into the water... so shouldn't that DNA test, they done on the ship in the movie and says that the Jockey's DNA matches humans, say it has genetic markers in-common with all life on Earth from amoebas to zebras and even plants!?
Also this movie had one flaw that really ruins a movie for me is none of the characters I liked... hell I out right hated most of them which isn't good as it makes me happy to see them die not shocked or scared. The only likable characters was David the android( I'm convince if the whole movie was just him taking care of the ship and his other daily jobs on-board the ship the 2 years it took them to get from Earth to LV-426 it'd been a better watch) and the Captain(and his likability began to wain when he suddenly goes from the guy that drives the ship and makes safety calls to the guy that's aware the company is evil and must be stopped like he's been a member of some group trying to stop them). The only other character they could've made that'd been more likable is if they got pet of some sort on board like another cat, a dog, or a monkey!
The worse character was Noomi Rapace's as she came off as selfriteous and terrible at her job.
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The worse character was Noomi Rapace's as she came off as selfriteous and terrible at her job. As Spoony put it she's not a good scientist since most choices she(and all the other scientist) make have ZER0 logic behind it! Like removing your helmet just because the air reads as breathable... that just meant it had no poison in the air not that it wasn't full of deadly alien germs!
Crap! I just realized that it wasn't LV-426 they were on but a different planet... which is good and bad as it means this might not have been the actual origins of the Xenos but it's still asking the audience to know a lot of crap!
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That was hilarious. Irving is the man, I want to see a show where he just says offensive things and Jake reacts to them
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Jake and Irving are the Bert and Ernie of Midnight Screenings. Good stuff!
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Jake has my deepest and sincerest sympathies. The agony, the horror of it all. You can't even get another sex show in the back of the theatre like with Mr. Popper's Peguins. I feel for you, but one man's pain is another's entertainment.
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Madagascar 3: Europe's Most Wanted
Well I'm glad to see angry Jake again!
I wasn't expect much from this movie outside a great angry rant! XD
Hey even though it's been out over a month already I'd love to hear ya'll's review of the Avengers since we never get to hear ya'll's takes on some of the actual good movies that come out!
Actually the idea of Jake reviewing crappy kid's films still interest us as a spinoff series with you reviewing older bad kid films like the 1st Garfield and Alvin and the chipmunks!
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http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/madagascar_3_europes_most_wanted_2012/#
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Madagscar 3 has a better rating on Rotten Tomatoes than Prometheus. No joke, most people think it's a great movie, just because Angry Jake didn't like it, doesn't mean sht.
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so not everyone is the same? so what? if they don't like it doesn't mean everyone hates it. get over yourself
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Funny how Jake and Irving say Madagscar isn't intellgent enough and yet most critics are calling it a smart kids picture.
Bullshit not only are you guys in the minority with you, but most people won't agree with your guys opinions.
Plus it's quite possibly to beat Prometheus at the box office, and much better legs.
I know I dragging this through the mud, but Madagascar 3 is considered to be a kids picture winner.
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u mad?
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Can't handle the truth?
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u mad?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQ3A7P3k8mI
Yes, a movie that features this scene and appears to be the main focus of the entire film's marketing is clearly an intelligent kids movie. I can't wait for Brave to wipe the floor with both DreamWorks's pathetic offerings in both critical praise and box office numbers.
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Because big box office always equals quality...
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The Secret of Nimh is an intelligent kid's movie. The Iron Giant is an intelligent kid's movie. Kiki's Delivery Service, Wall. E, The Muppet Christmas Carol, The Great Mouse Detective, Up, The Land Before Time, and The Nightmare Before Christmas are intelligent kid's movies. None of the Madagascar movies can be called "intelligent kid's movies"
The Madagascar movies are only considered "kid's picture winners" because the standards have been set so low lately. If the Madagascar series was made in the 80s-90s, it would have been ripped apart by critics, and later ended up on any number of online review shows. The saddest part of that is that if it WAS made back then, it would actually be better off because at least there would be some nice traditional animation to look at.
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So let down by Prometheus. Talk about the emperor's new clothes. The trailer was more suspenseful than anything in the final product. Scott rushes through the action, abandons characters and story in favour of spectacle. The ideas are undercooked, scenes barely hang together, plus we never get close to any character so we never understand character motivation (and boy do these scientists do some really dumb shit). The film's only triumph is its technical achievements but that's about it.
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That was pretty much our feeling when I and some friends saw it. It was not so terrible that it made me angry, just left me feeling nothing at the end and the experience was sort of forgettable.
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damn brad if you don't immediately idris elba you need to get acquainted with his work playing stringer bell
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Oh, Jake.
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Y Jake no like Dodgeball? Andy Ricther is the annoying midget high pitched lemur who's King Jullen's bitch.
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Gotta say, Prometheus made me a believer in 3D... like, every other 3D film I've seen prior to it was utterly underwhelming and I did not see the damn point, but as I was watching Prometheus (in 3D, because the theatre here is a money grubbing whore who won't offer it in 2D) I was like "Oh... so THAT'S what it's supposed to look like!"
I thought that the characterization was a little thin, as some people have been saying, but what was there was really interesting. I especially liked the David character- Fassbender did a great job walking the line between creepy and sympathetic. And Rapace is a fricking chameleon! She hasn't looked the same once in any film I've seen her in, but she's been amazing in all of them. I'm with Brad on this one- it may not have been a perfect flick, but it was a hell of a good one.
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I love how only about three minutes deep, you guys are worried about "spoiling" the movie, and yet there's about another 25 mins of video. Lol...
I think it's rather obvious that if we're watching your vid, we're not concerned about spoilers, btw.
Thanks for all the great content, guys!
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My issue with Prometheus isn't that its a dumb movie (aint nothing wrong with some dumb sci-fi action schlock), but rather that its a big dumb movie that seems utterly convinced that it has depth and intelligence to it. Its the kind of movie that really, REALLY wants you to walk away going "Wow, that makes me think", when the reality is that giving any thought to the events of the movie makes you notice all the plotholes and flawed logic.
Also, why was Charlize Theron even in this? She did nothing, wasn't developed in the slightest, and was killed off pointlessly. Why bother casting a pretty big name like her for a role that could have been completely cut out of the movie without changing anything about the plot?
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am i the only one that finds it distracting when Irvings drunk?
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I watch Film Brain and Lewis video before watching Prometheus. (also Alien and SF Debris analytic review of Alien) To be honest, I disagree with both of them at some parts. It is flawed but you know what I was high on feet and invested in the world.
There are things I didn't like. In my opinion the other characters beside Noomi Rapace, Michael Fassbinder, and Charlize Theron weren't really that interesting comparing them to Alien. Also one of the crew deliberating said "I am not here for the science but here for the money" Which made me think none of the cast in original would said that. Also less subtle then the cast in the Alien. Sometime how some of them can be a bit stupid which you guys mocked. Also what a waste of Guy Pierce. Seriously, he was there for a confusing subplot. Bullshit! Also Charlize Theron getting crush sorta didn't like. I am getting into Nitpicking territory.
What I did like? Is how it shot and also the idea of finding the first humanoid being (or Space Jocks) is interesting concept and do make you question. Also the beginning credits was clever if you think about the reason and motivation why. It makes you questions and makes you invested in the universe like all sci-fi movies supposed to do.
After seeing the movie, yesterday, I didn't know rather I like it or I dislike but you know what I personally like it.
For Madagascar 3, wow, that's surprise then my expectation. I thought it was a oh this is going to be crap then watch it. It was better then I thought. Oh well, I always didn't care for the Lion, Zebra, Hippo, and the Giraffe side of the story. I always liked the Penguin side. Their usually much more funnier to me. Might as well not see the movie in theater.
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"...none of the cast in original would said that." Have you seen Alien? Yaphet Kotto and Harry Dean Stanton's characters are introduced when they are bitching about fair distribution of bonuses. Those two are all about the money as well.
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Exactly. Those characters are DIRECTLY inspired by characters in the original film.
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Yeah, I seen it, I forgot the argument. Thanks for the reminder. How the guy said though in Prometheus, is to me, was a little bit less subtle and more aim directly at the audience then saying those words in a different way. Also Yaphet Kotto and Harry Dean Stanton's character were bitching about it and having a conversation about it which a worker in those situation would do; it wasn't just a sentence of exposition to described the character so it should have been said in a different way. It probably just me.
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Uh huh. Nitpick, nitpick, nitpick, nitpick.
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Nitpick, nitpick, nitpick, everything in this movie is a nitpick
I did say I like it even though I was bit nitpicky. Sometime I probably am not nitpicking and how cliched he did say that line or it was written. Is a bit small but significant criticism because it is describing his character since it is the first you do interact with him in the movie. His character is wasn't really well constructed and by him being straightforward like that telling us the audience he is getting killed in the beginning and we do not really caring about his death and not really that memorable.
I do really like the movie but it's flawed
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Prometheus is a steaming pile of shit. Incoherent story with plotholes the size of Canis Majoris, wretched characters and pseudo-philosophical messages that are not even absurd at this point - they are surreal. If it was thinly veiled creature feature which I would at least be able to laugh at, I would be like: yeah, it worth the ticket price, but NO, it goes way beyond that. It is downright offensive to anyone whose cognitive skills surpasses an alcololics with severe dementia.
Ridley Scott forgot how to fucking direct a movie, fair and square. And fuck him for sequel baiting. I won't even consider seeing the follow up to this garbage.
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oh please. I agree there were problems with Prometheus but none of them were with the direction.
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Roar! Rage! Moo!
And if anyone is responsible for Prometheus having a number of shortcomings in the script department it is Lindelof. He wrote for an episode of TV rather than a film here.
Frankly, while I thought the film could have been much better, I think so many people are just waiting and wanting to bash it...
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I went into Prometheus without too much expectation because I heard good and bad things. I did not like it. The film did not make me angry it just left me feeling kind of empty and uninterested. I liked some of the scenes and the way the film looked in general but story wise, it seemed a mess and did not grab me.
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I'm sorry, but the "poor man's Brian and Sarah Lewis" on the backseat there add nothing to these. And the extra seat filling nerd like fella - is that the same nameless dude who's been to these in the past or is this a new one? I'm sorry, I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings here, but I'd rather watch Brad talking about these movies alone rather than have this "hey, we have a few extra seats in the car - who's availible?" situation week after week after week... if your wife isn't availible or if Ed Glazer isn't in town, then take Brian and/or Sarah and if they aren't availible then see if Jake and Kids Brian aren't busy with kids stuff. And speaking of that - I already KNOW what Jake's gonna think of Madagascar 3, so I would have rather see what he thinks of Prometheus. I know these guys are your friends and all that and you like going to the movies with friends, but if you are like "doing these for the site", then as a site regular I have to give my opinion. Hell, bring back Jerrid or something - just enought with these non-people. I mean the chick is like "I don't know me no nothing about no Alien movie, y'all" and the dude to her left is trying to come up with a gimmic for himself with his silly hat and with him eating stuff that apparently smell like ass. Again, sorry, but enough already.
As for Prometheus - I loved it. And I was sure that 'cos I liked it, then everybody else would hate it. I mean besides the first two Alien movies I'm Mr. Unpopular Opinion when it comes to these...
*SPOILER* Loved the whole end with the giant facehugger squid thing coming from a human and making a baby with the superior "Jockey" type creating this "prototype-alien" thing. And the giant facehugger squid "birth" scene was amazing.
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No. These are friendly discussion videos. I'm not seeing them by myself, it defeats the purpose of the series. Jake sees the kids movies because that's his shtick, just like Brian would most likely be at some sappy romance. Plus, Jake has been to some that aren't kids movies, such as a couple weeks ago. And I can't just get someone to go to these at the drop of a hat, sometimes people have work the next day. Dave (Max) has been in plenty of videos over the years, so he isn't just a nobody. In fact, none of my friends are nobodys, so that was just an assy thing to say. You want reviews with just me, there's plenty to pick from, and if I want to bring a couple newer faces to my series, that's what I'm going to do.
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Yeah, I won't be as rude as the other guy, but I do have to agree that the couple you've had in the Prometheus video and a few others really aren't that good at this, especially the woman who seems to have absolutely no idea what she should be saying in these things.
I get that they're your friends and they're probably fun for you to see the movie with and as long as they've seen the movie with you they might as well be in your video, but from a "I'm watching this video at home" point of view, they're just neither entertaining or insightful.
Sorry, and if you found me rude, then feel free to take my two cents and whip them back at my face as hard as you can
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I disagree. I think the additional insights do add another dimension to these videos. The girl in the backseat (apologies, her name escapes me) doesn't seem as much of a "movie nerd" as a lot of the other people on this site but i think that's a good thing, it's a different point of view. Their opinions are all just as valid as Brad's or anyone elses. Personally I look forward to these midnight screening videos because of the extra people.
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The "nobody" bit was lost in translation.
And I just read my comment for the first time since I wrote it to see if it really was that terrible as a lot of the replys make it out to be and... yes, it was terrible. It was terrible on so many levels - it's terrible to go after guys 'cos I just can't figure out what they are (again, lost in translation) and it's way more terrible to indicate that everybody should have a gimmic (not what I mean) for the Show to be more for "us". Fuck that. Not going to make excuses about a bad day I had, 'cos I had a terrific day.
But going back to the "nobody" thing, I'm just gonna dig my hole deeper and try to explain what I mean with that. So... have you ever seen a movie that just did nothing for you? You'd sit there and you weren't bored or anything and there's this movie that doesn't do anything for you... And then you start thinking "well, I don't know if I can even call this bad or anything, 'cos this movie just did nothing for me". I usually dismiss those and try to move on, 'cos it's clear that the movie just wasn't for me. That, from my perspective, would be a "nothing movie". A bunch of nothing characters go around doing a bunch of nothing and the end result is just nothing. As in there's nothing for me there to really get a hold of no matter what shenanigans there might be. So your friends are not nobodys as in the way it might have come off initially, but in the way that I just can't get anything out of them at them at this point. You know what I mean? Like have you ever met a guy that initially seemed like a complete ass and then when you got to know him/her better you might hit it off better. That would never be a reason to call anyone a "nobody" even in a "this person does nothing for me" kinda way. I mean not to their face at least...
And a "nobody" in my laguage is also like what I tried to st-st-stutter about here - a "person who does not have an impact on you".
Sorry again. I'm just such a huge fanboy of the Lewis' that I guess I went into this re-cast sequel with an "I'm not going to like these people" attitude.
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Max and Leah aren't a re-cast or a sequel, they're just newer people. Brian and Sarah haven't gone anywhere, they're still in videos.
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Yeah, I know, I was just joking on the very last comment.
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Ya know I honestly don't really give a good god damn what any of you people think of me. I really don't. But to make a few things clear...I like my silly ass hat, it's comfortable and keeps my hair down. Further more, I just like hats. Snacking is not a gimmick, I merely wanted some chips. The whole point of these videos is a discussion amongst friends about the movie we just saw, which is essentially what Brad and I started doing together on local public access about twelve years ago (and before anybody asks the videos are not available, sorry). As for our capabilities for reviewing, Leah is new at this, she's finding her footing. As for me I think I do just fine, however I'll give you that Prometheus wasn't mine or anybodies finest moment as far as these reviews go. It's was a hard movie to review, probably because I don't think any of us had incredibly strong feelings about it in any given direction. But ya know what, that's kinda beside the point...I'm gonna keep being in these videos. Deal with it man. You don't have to watch. But try to, at the very least, be respectful. You're getting free entertainment here. Ya kinda gotta take what ya can get.
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I agree. Max Force gives good commentary and Leah doesn't bother me.
I do wish Brad was in all the Jake videos to egg him on. Thats what makes those hilarious.
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Like I said, no disrespect.
And I just realized that I can't just run my mouth and say disrespectful things and top it off with "but I don't mean this to be disrespectful", like that makes it all fine and dandy, so sorry to all of you.
As for the capabilities and all that... Have you ever been unemloyed? It's like when you try to get a job and you don't get it 'cos you don't have enough experience at that particular and you think to yourself "so I can't get a job 'cos I don't have the experiense, but how am I supposed to get said experiense if I can't do the job...?". So take your time and become more capable or whatever.
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Ok, lest you forget, Jake and Irving were both "newcomers" to the site this time last year, so there is nothing wrong with Brad putting in newer people this season of this midnight screenings as well. Especially since Brian and Sarah can't make it to every movie, and Jerrid is now gone. Leah and Beckner seem to be filling in the "everyman" role that Jerrid had, only they're a lot brighter than Jerrid.
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And Max isn't even "newer." He's been in videos off and on since the site stated. Plus he was in all of Brad's movies.
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I loved Prometheus. Because it didnt fall into the same clichés as the first 4 ones (longheaded monsters chasing scared humans).
Watching Prometheus i had no fucking idea where the movie was going. And i loved that. I hate when i can predict how a movie will end, which happens a lot. But in this movie was a whole new experience. It was pure science fiction, as you people pointed out in the review. It asked more questions than it answered. Just like 2001. It was not a dumped-down movie, it was an intelligent movie. And i fucking loved it.
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Prometheus is just a terrible movie, no joke, I'd rather watch AvP.
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Actually Prometheus was a great movie, because it wasnt dumped down to your level (AvP).
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Man, I thought this was gonna be the greatest thing since sliced bread, but it has flaws, so I hate it. NERD RAGE!!!!!
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The Prometheus video definitely perked my interest in that movie though I will have to see the original first. Jake is such an entertaining personality I just absolutely love it. Thank you everyone for seeing these movies at midnight and sharing your experiences with us.
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Thought Prometheus was a very enjoyable film however it was a total mess really. The plot at times makes no sense really (why give maps to people showing where the bio warfare facility is?), the characters are kind of muddled and contradict themselves all the time. Like the guy being terrified one minute then calling the snake thing baby the next. The pacing is all off and stuff that happens gets breezed over like it didn't matter despite being really big things.
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But dear TeamSnob - have you seen a Spoony's review? He tears it to shreds, and from what he's(and his brother) saying, this movie is utterly stupid. I'm still not convinced to see it, since I also saw the Matthew Buck review. Both he and Spoony bring lots of massive examples of pure goofiness, it was nothing to do with expectations. But then again, Roger Ebert rated it 4/4. Damn it x).
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Brad and Spoony have opposite reactions to the same movie? That NEVER happens!
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I find Spoony does have a tendency to really go overboard with the scrutinizing and the nitpicking when it comes to something he doesn't like. I vaguely remember a written review he did of Akira where he picked it apart for, what in my opinion, were all the wrong reasons. Mathew Buck on the other hand is usually pretty fair and measured with his criticisms so his review does set off a few alarm bells although his tastes do differ from my own a bit.
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I just came back from seeing Prometheus, and I did in fact like it quite a bit. I do agree that the scientist did do some very stupid things, but Spoony entirely didn't get a few plot points. Theron's character was heavily implied to be a Robot' just seemingly a more advanced model than Fassbender. The medical unit was solely for Mr. Weiland in case something happened with him before he got to talk to the Engineer. Weiland was insane and wanted to meet his creators to ask for more life; that's why he didn't take along any major weapons. Theron and Fassbender were programmed to find LIVE alien life for Weiland, that's why Fassbender infected that guy with the black goo; Fassbender hoped it would initiate some sort of process that would create an Alien life form. Shaw's faith was never in question because she believed that the aliens created humans from the start. Questioning Shaw's faith in this movie is like questioning any Christian's faith; they contort the way they look at the facts at hand until it suits their world view.
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You liked the 3D in this movie?
NO! the 3D was useless, the movie is so dark and it gets even darker with the glasses, don't waste the money on the 3D one, it annoyed me as hell.
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This may be a little irrelevant, but a few days ago I came across something in the comments section of Peter Bradshaws review of Prometheus on guardian.co.uk that instantly brought to mind The Cinema Snob. Some amazingly pretentious dolt was complaining that the original Alien movie shouldn’t be considered a classic because by comparison La Haine is much more successful at representing the nihilism of certain aspects of society. I am all too often amazed at the internets concentration of people who purport to be intelligent but are actually as thick as pig shit.
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"He likes your lemonade."
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Jake needs his own website, I'd so be there every week to watch whatever he has made, and yeah "Irving" seemed stoned/drunk off his ass in this one. (Though I like his "how much of the flask did I drink? "rating system.") But Jake is all gold. Though, really, I wasn't getting the hate this much this week as he was with Smurfs/Penguins. I suspect that'll be next week, though.
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Thought both reviews we're great, though Jake is by far my favorite, though it would be nice to get his opinions on good movies. Not just because I think he would have some interesting views on the films, but I also fear that to much rage will most likely kill him at an early age. (lost almost a hundred pounds, dear God O.O) Though will say this, laughed for 2 solid minutes at Jake's slow pan, head turn towards Irving at the end after the baby coming out of the ball sack comment. That was golden.
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I'm sure Jake will end up getting sent to Brave, unless Brad really is that evil.
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Oh, I'm sure, and looking forward to both the that, and the movie itself. But I mean stuff other then that. What is his view on Prometheus, or the Avengers. Yeah, angry Jake is funny, but surely there is more he can offer then the guy who Brad sends to shit movies just to get him pissed off.
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I think the problem is if Jake doenst have anything to rage about then it wont be very interesting. It would be funny if you actually took a kid to the movie and he loved it and jake hated it and made the kid cry
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just wanted to say. great jobs guys and girls and keep up the great work
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Jake seeing That's My Boy?
Well, I look forward to the last week of videos on this site because I'm sure Jake will go on homicidal rampage.
Unless Jake sees Brave and Dark Knight or even Spider Man in return, I see Jake cursing at everybody, Irving getting drunk and the other poor soul who gets dragged along just being sad.
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I don't get what they mean by the 3D for Prometheus, I didn't even remember it was in 3D for 95% of the movie.
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Glad that you liked Prometheus)) I hated the old man make up too. He looked like one in "Mr. Nobody".
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I thought he looked like Mr. Burns, which is funny since Weyland sounds so similar to Waylon.
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here is the best reviewed explination I can share and I give full credit to the reviewer from Bloody-Disgusting.com : "The film is proving to be a commercial hit, having made $21 million dollars on Friday alone. This means a lot of you have likely seen it and are ready to talk about specific events within it, along with what works in the film and what doesn’t. So here’s where my review comes in. It’s full of spoilers and even points out a lot of things that don’t work in the film, but ultimately is certainly favorable. If you haven’t seen the movie yet, I’d recommend fixing that before you read this.Let’s get the bad stuff out of the way first and address some of the more prevalent criticisms of the film.
Prometheus isn’t perfect and a lot of that boils down to the script. I don’t feel as harshly towards it as some others do, but it’s problematic. Sean Harris’ Fifield returning as a head smashing zombie doesn’t really tie into the film’s thematic or narrative framework as far as I can tell. Idris Elba’s out-of-nowhere speech to Noomi Rapace’s character about the canisters being weapons is a clumsy bit of exposition that plays to the cheap seats (I wouldn’t be surprised if this scene was added late in the game to provide said exposition as well as explain his character’s sacrifice). Some of the film’s dialogue in general is on the nose. Seeing Guy Pearce pop up again under all that old age makeup (which bothered me less the second time around) diffuses the tension and noticeably splinters the momentum of the film’s third act. If you’re reading this you’ve seen the movie and already know Prometheus peaks at the C-Section scene. This is in part because that scene is an amazingly tough act to follow. But it’s also because the last few reels don’t know where to focus their attention and the film’s ideas get away from it.
This may read like a bad review at this point, but I actually really like the movie. In fact, I almost love it. But an honest assessment of the film has to acknowledge its shortcomings if I’m going to expect you guys (or myself) to buy into any of this. It’s sort of frustrating to feel yourself falling in love with a film only to be pushed away here and there until you have to settle on a platonic relationship with it instead of a romantic one – but that’s what I have with Prometheus. A platonic relationship between film and filmgoer. One that I value quite a bit.
Prometheus dares to dream, it just fails to to see all of its dreams through. I hate to be the guy who says, “at least it tries,” because many movies try and fail and just aren’t worth it. Prometheus fails in a lot of its undertakings but is still completely worth it and utterly works on an experiential level. Even the ideas it doesn’t see all the way through are engaging stuff to chew on after the film ends. I’m not sure if its Alien ancestry helps or hurts it, it might be what got you in the door but I know it was my biggest stumbling block in terms of...
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...embracing the film for what it actually is. Starting with that initial shot of the Engineer standing at the edge of the waterfall, staring at a ship that’s alien to even him and sipping the black goop that unravels his DNA (which cascades into the rushing water and creates… us) – you know that this not a pure Alien prequel. Thematically it almost feels more like a Star Trek film married to the tone and biology of the first few entries in the Alien franchise.
The design of the Engineer is shocking, and I can see how it might even be off-putting. This is not the creature you paid to see, instead it’s literally a god made flesh. And it’s also the human ideal. I don’t think the physique evokes Michelangelo’s David (or the Greek Gods) on accident. But I appreciate the film’s boldness to make it pretty much the first thing we see and like that it puts the creation dynamic in our heads right away. Since the bulk of the film is about the dynamic (and divide) between creator and creation and it’s not a bad way to get the ball rolling. It’s also not an accident that Fassbender’s android is named David to begin with. I think the Engineers embodying the human physical ideal (like Michelangelo’s David) comments on our society’s struggles to get approval from the Gods in the same way that Fassbender’s David is trying to get approval from us. Both Davids are facsimiles carved by creators (creators who obviously differ on the definition of “perfection”).
That theme, creator vs. creation (and vice versa), is carried out several ways in the film. Humanity wanting to know “God”. The Gods/Engineers wanting to wipe out humanity. The relationship between Vickers and her father Weyland, whom she’s still trying to impress even though he clearly favors his android creation (the film favors nurture over nature here, and she obviously got the wrong end of the stick in that department). David’s pursuit of human approval is negated by Holloway (who is not directly David’s maker but represents what David simultaneously disdains and desires to be. It’s also Holloway’s treatment of David that seals his fate, David could have “experimented” on at least 4 other members of the crew without consequence, he didn’t choose him by accident ). And finally we have humanity’s relationship with its own creation, the xenomorph (more or less). Shaw gets to have Holloway’s child, something she always wanted but never thought possible. Unfortunately, it turns out to be the first iteration of the face-hugger. While I can’t really disagree with the argument that this theme is hammered repeatedly on-the-nose, I would counter with a mild, “at least it’s thorough.” We don’t get that much dedication to ideas in today’s blockbusters and Prometheus is dedicated to ideas, even if it doesn’t always fully understand its own thoughts.
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To that end, Prometheus is not an exploration of every possible result of that dynamic. Rather, it functions like any good argument would by using several different examples to make one very specific point. The case that the film makes? That the initial result of meeting your gods or idols (or knowing your parents – or getting the answer to anything) is disappointment. Sure, there’s room to rebound from that disappointment – to use the shock of what you’ve learned to build toward an even deeper understanding of what makes whatever you hold iconic tick. And I’d be willing to wager this is what the film’s sequels will set out to explore (should they happen). But if you’ve invested a significant amount of time or emotional energy projecting your desires onto something or someone that you don’t truly know – the reality of that object or person will always be a potentially dangerous let down. Ironically, this is actually pretty well exemplified by the experience of someone who came to this film looking for the perfect Alien film and saw Prometheus instead.
Another thematic strand I find equally interesting is the simple idea of perspective. What is evil? What is good? What deserves to live and what needs to be killed? The Engineers want to wipe out humanity completely, what do they see in us that they find so dangerous? Is it similar to what we see in the Xenomorph? After all – we created them yet the accepted plan of action in the rest of the Alien films is to destroy every last one of them. We act exactly the same towards the Xenomorphs as the Engineers act towards us. And even though the Engineers in Prometheus want to kill us, they’re not depicted as particularly evil. And Xenomorphs in the canon aren’t necessarily evil either. One of the points Prometheus makes is that there aren’t necessarily such things as “good” or “evil” – just the interests of any given species versus the interest of its opponents.
The last big component of Prometheus is faith. I’m not even slightly religious but the film spoke to me about the value of carrying faith – not necessarily in a deity, but in optimism and survival – in the face of irrefutable proof otherwise. In the film this is obviously illustrated by Shaw’s insistence on holding steadfast to her faith even though the “God” she found not only outright rejects her, but tries to kill her. But I think the significance of the message can be applied in meaningful ways across the board. We live in a tough, bleak world – and to believe in any kind of sustainable future or prolonged happiness is to have faith in the fact that things can get better (or even just avoid getting worse) despite all evidence being to the contrary. At the end, when Shaw asks David where her cross is, she’s not just reaffirming her religious faith – she’s restating her will to live even though she’s just been through an untenable series of events that would cause most of us to give up outright.
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Do I wish the film had seen all these ideas through more thoroughly? Yes. And I can’t chastise people and say they “didn’t get it”, because it’s likely a lot of them got it but just didn’t like the movie. Fair enough. So all I can really do is point out what I liked about the film, and hope that some people are willing to forgive Prometheus for what it suggests, rather than what it explains.
Let’s also not forget that, experientially, the film is top notch. It’s a visually arresting and often gorgeous experience. The opening frames, the sandstorm encroaching on the Prometheus, the final crash of the Space Jockey’s crescent ship – it’s all marvelously executed. The sets are as intricate, ornate and expansive as any you’ll find on film. There are some great moments of dread and the film’s centerpiece – the caesarian – is one for the ages. In fact, I’d argue that the main fault of Prometheus is that it peaks too early and is never able to match that scene. The narrative splinters and becomes somewhat diffuse by the end of the 3rd act. The film loses its sense of urgency by cutting between two many strands of action, none of which are as compelling as Shaw fighting for her life in that medical unit.
That’s not to say the remaining minutes of the film are a wash, it simply settles out of that urgency into the cradle of its own ideas. Ideas that are more than worthwhile if you’re willing to engage them. Just because a lot of what the film has to say is rooted in well explored terrain doesn’t mean that further examination of those concepts is ill advised. After all, there are only so many core stories from which to draw. And every film draws on them to some extent. It just so happens that most of with far less visual and editorial currency than Prometheus."
that reviewer gave the film an 8/10.
again , I give full credit to the reviwer from Bloody-Disgusting.com and you can check out his review here :
[BD Review] The Flaws And Glory Of ‘Prometheus’, For Those Who Have Seen The Film Only
to me , this is a legit decent film. it does have flaws , but it did have some interesting ideas. and , let's face it , this film is NOT meant to impress everyone and this kind of film even for science fiction is very rare due to what I see in sci-fi films and horror films constantly. on that note , your lucky to even get any film made even by Ridley Scott. this is not meant to be a solid Alien film and went with their original ideas. not the executives or the studios ideas...their ideas. even if the film were to be rated PG-13 , you all would still have something to complain about. this film wont please every single person , but dont expect perfection because you wont get it. it is flawed , but it is a well made film.
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PROMETHEUS SUCKED!!
THE MOVIE SHOULD HAVE BEEN EXACTLY LIKE THE OTHER ALIEN MOVIES!! HOW DARE THEY EXPAND AND INVENT NEW STORIES IN THE UNIVERSE, WHICH I HAVENT APPROVED!!
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AND THE WORST THING ABOUT THIS MOVIE WAS THAT IT WAS JUST LIKE 2001! HOW DARE THE MOVIE NOT GIVE ME ALL THE ANSWERS!! IN MOVIES YOU HAVE TO GIVE ALL THE ANSWERS, AND THAT IS AM UNDENYABLE FACT!! YOU CANT JUST MAKE A SCI FI MOVIE IN WHICH YOU ASK MORE QUESTION THAN YOU ANSWER! THAT IS STUPID, AND IT MAKES ME INSECURE! ALL THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS MOVIE SHOULD BE DRAGGED OUT IN THE STREET AND RAPED TO DEATH!
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No...we just want characters (and actors) who are not the dumbest people ever. You could NOT have written dumber characters, whether it be:
*the dude with crazy hair who puts Tobacco (or weed) in his suit and seems like he's high
*to the guy who decides to take his helmet off (without making sure it's 100% okay, even though his fellow scientists warn him not to do it) simply with the comment "don't be a skeptic"
*to the lead girl who gets a SQUID RIPPED OUT OF HER STOMACH, RIPS HER OWN CORD APART, and just simply gets it STAPLED SHUT...and she's okay except for a once in a while 'ooo' or 'aaa' moment... who then (when asked, 'would u like to go back to the ship where the Engineer will wake up, even though you just had an alien baby and you had to get it cut/ripped out and your stomach stapled shut) says "Uh, Okay!"
New stories? You mean mainly 2001 or Mission to Mars (or hell, Rendezvous with Rama) but if H.R. Giger made them. Hell, it even had some of Inseminoid aka Horror Planet...or just watch some FUN creature features like Leviathan or Roger Corman stuff, at least they're not pretentious crap with a unbelievably stupid script.
And your main baddie 'The Engineer' is basically an 'I Am Legend' reject meets James Arness from 'The Thing From Another World.'
If you love the film cool...but don't assume that we're just some 'Sheep' who'll follow a movie because it's 'Different'. Just because it's quote 'different' doesn't mean a rat's ass if it's not good.
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And "Alien" is the most original film on the face of the planet.
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Prometheus? Good? Kidding me? ... The movie is just amazingly bad.. My reaction after seeing it was "What? Why? When?"
The timeline is broken, they are def NOT scientists, smoking weed in the suit? a male only medic device in the female captains quarter? Two guys get lost despite automapper thingies? ... the list goes on and on and on...
B-movie without a B-movies charm.. just bad.
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I liked Prometheus, but felt that the characters motivation was unclear. To fully understand the interaction of the crew, I really felt that it needed nudity and that possibly some sort of Inseminoid or Breeders style alien, human interaction would helped the internal logic of the story.
Admittedly this is because,as Mrs Glenn often points out, I am a bit of perv. But it's still a valid point IMO
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Wow, Brad in overdrive trying to supress the hatred of Max and company.
The whole "I don't care, then don't watch!!" comment by Max can't be a good "business move" for something driven by the fans and ads..
Think most people without the ad blocks are just turning it off for the site as it stands...
Not to mention the movie you wnat to sell.. Pissing in peoples faces like that is just...
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Whoa there! Pissing in peoples faces? really? I'm all for people being free to criticise and express their opinions whether negative or positive but surely it's only fair that those on the receiving end of that criticism have the right to speak out in their own defense? Max isn't the same person as Brad and what he says doesn't necessarily reflect Brad's opinion anyway. Generally I think when content providers start thinking in terms of "business moves" things take a turn for the worse. Sure this site is technically a "business" but I think a big part of what makes it special is that it never feels like one. I think the best content comes from people who genuinely enjoy what they're doing and would probably be doing it whether they were making money out of it or not. I definitely get that feeling from Brad and yeah of course he should consider fair criticism (and I think he often deals with that side of things really well) but whether to act on or ignore that criticism remains his prerogative. I'd rather see a happy brad having fun discussing a movie with his friends than an unhappy Brad, on his own, no longer enjoying what he's doing simply for the sake of pleasing a bunch of moaning, entitled jerks any day.
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If Max started yelling at someone just because they disagreed with him, that would be one thing. But when someone called him a "nobody," he has the right to respond to that.
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wow... I was expecting at least a 15 minute rant on "Afro Circus" alone. .. I'm still trying to pin down an appropriate reaction.
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Does this mean I'll FINALLY stop having to see that annoying trailer before EVERY movie I go to?
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Prometheus...saw it last night...that movie, was so...LAAAAAAME. I went in super excited, with like 4 or 5 beers in me, buzzed and ready, and in like, the first 20 minutes, my buzz was killed. I did not enjoy this movie. Bored the crap out of me.
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I stayed to the end of the credits and saw this, "The previous footage belongs to the Waylon Yutani Group. Making the world better since 10/11/12". I wonder if that is teasing the next viral campaign for the next movie? I also wonder if they're going to start telling stories that have more to do w/Waylon Yutani Group versus Xenomorphs and Space Jockeys. Should be interesting to see.
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ah ah loved this, I liked Madagascar (both movies) so I'm gonna watch the third one anyway - still, laughed my ass off!
As for Prometheus... incredibly disappointed! One of the most antecipated movies on my list and goddamn it... the script was awful!
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Prometheus was pretty damn awesome. Frankly I'm surprised at the mixed reaction it's getting. Sure, it's not perfect, but overall it's a very enjoyable flick and one that's very different from Alien. I actually prefer this one over Alien.
Guy Pearce as Peter Weyland was amazing. The old guy make-up didn't bother me really. I think they cast him for this role because of the marketing campaign (Pearce's TED speech on youtube, which was absolutely awesome), and perhaps potential sequels. Suppose they make a sequel. The Weyland corporation will surely want to know why the ship never made it back to Earth, right? So it would make sense for them to send a new ship to investigate, likely with another android on board. If they do so, why not build an android in the image of the company's founder? Wild guess, but I'd like to see it. Especially if the new android meets up with the survivors of the old crew. A lot of awesomeness can come from a scene involving an android Michael Fassbender and an android Guy Pearce
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Hey Jake and Irving- don't mean to piss anyone off, but Madagascar 3 just outsold Prometheus in Worldwide sales at the box office this past weekend- making it the #1 film at the box office...yeahh...
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So I've got mixed opinions about most of the movie. I liked a lot of it, and was a annoyed by a few things.
I gotta say this though. The opening explanation about why they're visiting that world? That was about the dumbest thing I've ever seen. Faith nothing, it was just DUMB to spend billions of dollars, hire people who are under the impression that there's GOOD REASON to expect something there, and otherwise send a crew to completely abandon everything they've ever known (the movie makes clear that time distortion happens there, and so when they return thousands of years will have passed on Earth), on FAITH. They find some random charts that match some stars and just assume that humanity's creator is there. The rest of the crew is stunned that they readily admit they have NOTHING to base that on, and here we're expected to take their "on faith" trip as "profound"? Nope. I could not buy that at all, and I sort of had to soldier on and just forget that for the rest of the movie, which is actually pretty good. Still though, I wish they'd stop doing this sort of thing. It also bugged me with that ending speech in Contact where she expects everyone in the court to believe her account on faith.
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I dunno. this flick wasn't great.. not even very good either. It's kind of average and it tickles a very funny spot with a skeptical person's mind. the characters, who are scientists act more like teenage kids out for a romp in their dad's car "wooo"'s included.
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Oh Jake, I feel so bad for you. "That's my Boy" looks fucking atrocious.
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Could the third movie of Ben Stiller's that Jake liked possibly be Dodgeball?
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I saw madagascar. I have to say, I don't think it was terrible. It wasn't good. But I am used to being dragged to horrible movies by my nine year old sister. So I was expecting it to be as bad as Cars 2 or Smurfs. I think even though it's bad, there are moments where I was able to laugh at the weirdness of it all.
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Jakes reaction to Irving's last comment was so fing hilarious!
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Don't worry Jake, the kid-film thing'll pay off later this month. Brave!
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The stillshot from Jake's review is by the way pretty perfect
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I loved Prometheus! I don't see what all the negative reviews are all about. I was instantly immersed in the world of this movie and I thought the acting and special effects were great. I really think its just people being overhyped for the thing, because this movie was beautiful.
I'm glad you guys stuck to your guns and liked the movie aswell. Stick with it, dont fall to peer pressure!!
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That Adam Sandler impression always makes me laugh.
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Was I the only one who thought that Guy Pearce's old man makeup made him look like the old Biff Tannen from Back to the Future 2?
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C'mon Brad, as funny as Jake is on shitty films that you make him review, I would really like to hear his take on a MAJOR midnight for once. Give him a chance to compete for a film he really wants to see (Make it a contest for another friend of yours to take his place at the shit film that week) Until then, Brad you really need to be on camera with Jake because you just add fuel to his fire and that makes it truely awesome. Just my 2 cents
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Prometheus is a seriously awful movie. 0.5 stars out of 5.
I've got a laundry list of "What the flying fuck?" moments. The characters act like utter morons from beginning to end.
Like, why the flying fuck did the geologist get lost?! He was the one who started mapping everything. AND they have the captain sitting there watching the mapping and seeing where everyone is and he doesn't throw him a, "Hey, where are you guys going?" And then why are they suddenly willing to go into the room past the the dead body after flipping the fuck out earlier, which lead to them getting lost... and then they go in that same room and have no issue doing all the stupid shit that led to them getting killed... WHY?!
And why the flying fuck did Charlize have a male only medical pod? Really?!
Why on Earth did Fassbender infect Noomi's boyfriend? What was his possible motivation for that?
Why the flying fuck in a mission where they're expecting to possibly make first contact NOT include diplomats or soldiers?
I've for a list of about 10 more major questions but yeah... fuck this movie. It's fucking stupid.
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1. The geologist was just that, a geologist, they made it clear that they weren't in a rock structure but a space ship. So no he would have no frame of reference.
2. At the same time they were heading back the captain was monitoring the storm, and not the two guys who never contacted the ship to let them know they were on the way out because of the shock of seeing a dead alien.
3. They headed in the opposite direction that the probe signal was coming from because they were scared, so the ritual hall or whatever probably seemed like a safer place then somewhere with a potential threat.
The pod is a pretty good point i guess.
4. Im guessing it was on orders from Weyland, because prior he was seen talking to him and getting told to "try harder", so we can imply from that he would do something. It was clear Weyland was looking for a cure for 'death' so he wanted to test the black liquid, so 'try harder' means find a test subject. And it shows David coercing consent before giving him the liquid "doing whatever it takes to find the answer" - Question: Does this substance give everlasting life - Try Harder = Find a test subject. David was bound by his programming to obey weyland.Which was also explained.
5. The did have weapons, but this was a case of people being to idealistic and going unprepared, the scientists figured the aliens were peaceful, and they were basically told they get full reign, only after they arrived where they told they had no control, so again we can imply since they assumed the aliens were peaceful they would request no military personnel, again referenced when they told the guy to put the flamethrower away. Also weyland thought they were correct about the aliens giving eternal life, so again they're down fall was there idealism.
Thats the problem with detractors, they refuse to think about the movie, and a lot of this stuff I guess they need to be spoonfed, because everyone I talked to among my friends saw the same connections.
All there 'plot holes' are just people not being able to extrapolate anything. Maybe thats why this movie is getting 4/4 from some critics, because they made the same connections.
I mean no movie is perfect but it's far from the alien resurrection people are making it out to be. The only valid points I have read have been bad make up on Guy Pierce and some poor dialogue choices on a couple occasions.
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Basically, when I read your reply all I see is, "It makes sense because these people are all morons."
And there were at least 4 mapping drones, you're saying he couldn't get a signal from any of them nor from the ship? Really?
Their idea for seeing if some random black goo they found around a bunch of corpses is the secret to eternal life is you secretly get someone to drink some of it and then NOT careful monitor him? Really?
Why you would even think you're finding the secret to eternal life when there's nothing but corpses around is kinda moronic...
Also, you're saying the biologist who wanted to get away from the dead body and was scared enough by seeing that to the point where he couldn't find his way back out of the ship is now unscared enough to not only go inside this place, that's not looking WAAAY freakier than before with moving black ooze all over the place AND when he already knows that they have no hope for medical attention before morning he's going to poke his hand at some crazy alien snake-penis monster that's acting like a cobra... how did this man manage to survive up until this age?
There's a difference between seeing what hasn't been plainly said any people doing things that don't follow any clear logic.
Like why does Charlize run to put on a space suit and get in an escape pod rather than going into her room which is a personal spaceship she had put there just in case shit went bad. It's not like it needed time to launch, as it popped right off and landed ungracefully on the planet without her while she was busy trying to get dressed.
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A few other questions i had during the movie. I agree, i hated the movie 2.
1. WHY THE FUCK ARE THEY RUNNING DIRECTLY INFRONT OF THE CRASH PATH. Shouldn't you be running AWAY from the crashing ship? All they needed to do was run right or left and Charlize would've survived.
2. How the fuck did David know the Space Jockey was coming for Shaw.
3. How the hell did some crashing ship that was hit by a vessel manage to keep David's head and body in the exact same position as it was before?
4. There was no god damn explanation as to why the Space Jockeys wanted to kill humans.
5. Random pointless scene: Charlize Theron and the Captain's sexual proposition. What the hell was the point? It failed to add anything to the story whatsoever.
6. I could give two shits less about half the characters, Halloway's death was completely sudden and really just.. emotionless. I had no feelings whatsoever when he died.
7. Mohawk dude and hipster guy are fucking idiots. That scene was the token 18 year old college student splitting up from the group to check out a scary noise in typical horror movies. They made stupid decisions that got them killed. I have no sympathy for them whatsoever.
8. Why did the space jockey eat/drink that random bullshit at the beginning?
So many questions..
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I think Jake's final comment toward irving pretty much sums up my reaction to every character, Except David and Charlize Theron, in Prometheus. Hence why i hated the movie
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"There's a lot of little climaxes in the movie, as opposed to one giant one"
So, what Brad is saying is that the movie is not only full of vaginas but that it works like a vagina as well? That's what I call adherence to theme.
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Yeah, put me in the "didn't like it" group. I didn't hate it, and Michael Fassbender was fucking on point, but it just failed to really captivate me. Most of the characters were poorly written, left no impression on me whatsoever. There were way too many things that didn't make sense, and there were way too many moments where people did stupid shit. I'm willing to forgive characters for doing stupid things in the heat of the moment, or out of panic, because that makes sense. But when they do it, you know, just 'cause...it just annoys me.
I will, however, give this movie total props and a half a star extra in my rating for successfully contradicting the AvP films...because fuck those movies.
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cartoons back in the day, bitch woulda dropped right on em!
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At least Hotel Transylvania is written by a bunch of old cartoon writers from the Cartoon Cartoons end of Cartoon Network.
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I was forced to go to Madagascar 3 because I work in child care. Imagine a theater filled with over 100 kids and about 20 adults. Most of the kids had already seen it. The whole time, I couldn't help thinking about how I wanted to see a review by Jake about the movie. Low and behold, I discover this review today. I didn't laugh either. I was down right shocked that the bullshivick joke was there. Even the kids were gasping and giggling. Seriously, how the heck did they get away with that? Maybe that's why it was PG rather than G.
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I am in the micro minority of never having seen the alien movies (only knowing about its pop culture contributions) except alien v. predator and I only saw it for Fassbender's hotness. I liked the film, wasn't perfect but made me forget about life for 2 hours and fawn over David the robot which to me fulfilled its purpose. BTW loved that Leah was drinking Pepsi Throwback! I always buy Pepsi Throwback!
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Why can't we all get along? "I didn't like it" "I loved it" "It's a movie that is gonna be a classic, you'll see"
Here's the thing, everyone will have a radically different opinion on it. It is the anti-review equation. Everyone wants to review it and for people to see how good/ bad it is, and nobody's review is 100% spot on. There is no review, including yours, Brad, that is the final word on Prometheus. Nothing against you and your crew, I'm just saying that everyone (Doug, and the Antwiller Bros. included) who think their opinion stumps yours or anyone else's. Don't feel the need to back up your opinion anymore. Nobody will have the same thoughts on it. If people realized that, it's possible the movie would get a better reception than it did. If you people (excluding you, Brad)shut up and shook hands on it AND BE CIVIL, you'll find out that you're acting like fools.
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Jake is hillarious! Please make him watch more animation movies and comment on it. I also cant wait to watch his comment on Adam Sandler movies. I also hate his movies.
Cheerio It was very funny.
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I loved madagascar 3 XD but yea it was odd some of the references i didn't get
Also jake i lvoe you man! XD im sorry for you i just love the end of the video what the fuck is wrong with you man! XD
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Brad's Christian Bale impression was priceless.
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I really liked that Prometheus set out to be its own movie set within the Alien universe. Brad and his friends seem to get that while many people are sitting around calling "Betrayal!" on many of the elements of Prometheus.
I saw Prometheus in IMAX on its midnight premiere and was very satisfied. It had its flaws, but I really liked it on the whole.
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The only way to watch Adam Sandler is with a handful of pain killers in our stomach and a beer at your side, the movie will suck but you wont really notice ^u^
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oh jake btw the monkey koala dude, his name is Maurice the one voiced by that older comedian guy and Mort is the childish one, i laughed to at the face drop when King Julian floats back up
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Am I the only person to have noticed (admitedly just now) that Irving was flipping off the guys in the other car after Jake yells PUT YOUR GODAMN THUMBS DOWN?
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